# Generic NHL Offseason Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 17, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825 "2011-06-17T13:30:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/21 "2011-06-24T16:18:48Z")

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Andrei Markov - 3 years, $5.75M per. I’m surprised but happy that it’s 3 years; I think everyone was expecting 2 given his recent injury history, but then again he’s just so _good_ and could possibly be making more elsewhere but always expressed a desire to stay in Montreal. He’ll retire in a Habs jersey (not necessarily after this contract…he’ll be 35 when it ends), having been drafted by them in the sixth round in 1998. Not many players play their entire careers for one team.

Still waiting for Gorges. Can’t wait to have him back!

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/22 "2011-06-24T19:41:17Z")

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> [@KennerTheGreat](#):
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> The Minnesota Wild have called a news conference today to announce that Mike Yeo will be their next head coach. Yeo was the head coach of the Wild’s AHL affiliate in Houston this year, and was a Pittsburgh Penguin assistant when they won the cup in '09.
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> Speaking of Minnesota, the Entry Draft is next **Saturday** at the Xcel Energy Center. The [NHL.com](http://NHL.com) pundits are in consensus that Red Deer Rebel centreman Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will be the first choice overall, which is held by Edmonton.

It’s Friday. As in, today. In about three hours and change. My girlfriend gets to go and I don’t…☹

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/23 "2011-06-24T19:42:22Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> I think that it’s a terrible idea. It will take a king’s ransom to move up that far and we can’t afford to part with much right now.

Apparently Tambellini wanted Karlsson to swap spots with Ottawa. I agree that it’s absurd.

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/24 "2011-06-24T19:53:58Z")

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> [@antonio107](#):
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> It’s Friday. As in, today. In about three hours and change. My girlfriend gets to go and I don’t…☹

Shoot, you’re right. Well, I’m right too, but you’re more right. The first round is tonight; the rest of it’s tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/25 "2011-06-24T21:21:58Z")

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Looks like it will be the Winnipeg Jets as the new name for the relocated team. Be interesting to see if there are any sweater and or logo changes

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/26 "2011-06-24T21:45:22Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Looks like it will be the Winnipeg Jets as the new name for the relocated team. Be interesting to see if there are any sweater and or logo changes

Keep the colours but update the logo. It was a product of the 1970s and looked tired for a while.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/27 "2011-06-24T23:29:19Z")

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Heh - Gary Bettman just got booed by fans at the start of the Draft, but it got cut off quickly as the GMs/team staff stood and applauded. The fact that two little girls and a widow were standing there with him possibly also had an effect.

No real surprise that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins went first to Edmonton.

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**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/28 "2011-06-25T03:54:13Z")

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I’ve had a grin on my face since I heard the owner of the Winnipeg franchise announce the Winnipeg Jets were ready to make their first round pick.

Sure, I’ve had some awareness of NHL competition during the past 15 years. I’ve watched the playoffs most years and had knew about the big stories. But since 1996, I haven’t had a team to cheer for.

I do now. Again.

I’m feeling like a kid on an extended Christmas morning following the events unfold.

Go Jets!

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/29 "2011-06-25T03:57:21Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Looks like it will be the Winnipeg Jets as the new name for the relocated team. Be interesting to see if there are any sweater and or logo changes

The Jets have said the design will be updated.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/30 "2011-06-25T04:21:31Z")

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I also thought it was…funny? weird? insulting? it wasn’t a big thing for me but…odd? … that when Pierre Gauthier honoured his fans - likely mostly watching on RDS, in French - by wishing them a Happy St. Jean (which is today), some of the crowd at the Draft booed and started chanting “USA! USA!” I have a friend who is American-born and married to a Canadian (husband’s cousin) and when he posted a “Happy St Jean” on Facebook, nearly all of his friends replied with “USA #1!!!” “AMERICA!!!” and likewise. It’s…strange.

I understand disliking particular teams and booing them - whatever, it’s a sport - but this was just as weird and inappropriate as the few - and it is a _few_- Canadiens fans who boo the American national anthem. Just a giant WTF and “why does this matter to you?!?”

The term “classy” gets used a lot in hockey - I’m guilty of it - but I kind of wonder if most people know what it means, or whether it’s so overused as to have no meaning?

Overall, I guess it’s worth commenting on, but meaningless in the long run. 🙂  
Kirk Muller looks to be going to the Chicago Wolves (AHL) as head coach next year. I wish there was some way to keep him in Montreal, but I wouldn’t want to hold him back in his career either. Take care of him, Chicago, and send him back when he’s NHL ready!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/31 "2011-06-25T15:27:27Z")

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Hell, they booed Bettman at the Awards the other night!

It looks like Max Talbot’s going to be leaving Pittsburgh. Yes, I knew that was likely, but it still sucks. He’s my favorite player. ☹ They’re still negotiating with Pascal Dupuis.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/32 "2011-06-25T18:24:18Z")

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This Sharks fan gives a big thumbs-up to their trade with Minnesota for Burns.

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/33 "2011-06-26T03:02:26Z")

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Nikita Filatov for the 66th pick? Low risk, high reward move for the Senators. I’m excited for pre-season. 🙂

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/34 "2011-06-27T17:43:06Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I was hoping for a Ken Hitchcock return, but I guess the rumor mill still has him headed to New Jersey.

Unlikely. He’s got a reputation for defensive responsibility but that’s about it. Got canned from a bad team and hasn’t been a HC since… probably for a reason.

Everything out of NJ is that they’re looking for someone who can help grow and grow with the youngins and Hitch is pushing 60.

The beat reporters are saying Mike Eaves, the head coach of the Wisconsin Badgers, and Craig Ramsey, formerly of the Atlanta Thrashers, are the leading candidates.

> [@KennerTheGreat](#):
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> Or Hitchcock and Lamoriello, for that matter.

Lou gets a bad rap for not getting along with his coaches but really he just expects a lot and isn’t afraid to make a change if expectations aren’t being met. People like to point to all the coaching changes in the past decade as evidence, but conveniently overlook that not every coaching change was on Lamoriello.

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/35 "2011-06-27T17:52:53Z")

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> [@soulmurk](#):
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> Unlikely. He’s got a reputation for defensive responsibility but that’s about it. Got canned from a bad team and hasn’t been a HC since… probably for a reason.
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> Everything out of NJ is that they’re looking for someone who can help grow and grow with the youngins and Hitch is pushing 60.
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> The beat reporters are saying Mike Eaves, the head coach of the Wisconsin Badgers, and Craig Ramsey, formerly of the Atlanta Thrashers, are the leading candidates.

Craig Ramsay’s older than Hitchcock, so if they want someone to grow with the youngins, then Mike Eaves probably has the inside track.

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/36 "2011-06-27T17:57:02Z")

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Missed the edit window…

I should add that Ramsay’s age likely removes him from true consideration also. Some other names are being kicked around like Mike Haviland (NJ native), Marc Crawford, Peter DeBoer and Craig MacTavish… but the name du jour is Eaves because it came out of seemingly nowhere.

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/37 "2011-06-28T02:17:25Z")

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After what he did with a HORRENDOUS Senators team that shouldn’t have been anywhere near a playoff spot two seasons back, I’m surprised Clouston doesn’t get a second look. He was a finalist for the spot in Dallas, apparently.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/38 "2011-06-28T02:58:00Z")

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And…[Matthew Hulsizer drops his bid to purchase the Phoenix Coyotes.](http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370198) Tell me, who didn’t see this coming?

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**Author:** ![mbetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@mbetter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbetter)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/39 "2011-06-28T03:21:31Z")

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As a Hawks fan, I’m thrilled that all these teams are passing on Haviland for their head coach jobs.

In other Hawks news, they traded the rights of impending UFA Tomas Kopecky to Florida for a 7th round pick in 2012 or 2013. It doesn’t mean all that much but I’m taking it as yet another sign that Bowman intends to go balls-to-the-wall after Brad Richards on the first.

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/40 "2011-06-28T14:06:31Z")

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> [@mbetter](#):
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> As a Hawks fan, I’m thrilled that all these teams are passing on Haviland for their head coach jobs.

There’s a contingent of Devils fans who wanted him last year before MacLame was named coach. For someone who’s so highly touted it is strange that so many teams are passing up on him. Makes one wonder if they’re passing or he is…

> [@antonio107](#):
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> After what he did with a HORRENDOUS Senators team that shouldn’t have been anywhere near a playoff spot two seasons back, I’m surprised Clouston doesn’t get a second look. He was a finalist for the spot in Dallas, apparently.

He very well may be. Lamoriello is notorious for keeping things close to the vest. The rule of thumb is that if it’s not in the papers it’s probably closer to being true than what the rumors say… and I haven’t even heard his name in connection to the job.

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