# Generic NHL Offseason Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 17, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825 "2011-06-17T13:30:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/103 "2011-08-02T12:21:06Z")

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A couple of news notes from yesterday. 1. The vote on the Islanders arena failed. What will this mean for the team? I’d really hate to see the team leave since I remember a lot of their games from the 1980s. I read something that the new arena for the NBA New Jersey Nets in Brooklyn might be a potential new home.

Also, it looks like Nabokov is going to report to the Islanders. Seems like the Islanders might have a goalie glut if everyone is healthy.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/104 "2011-08-02T12:34:51Z")

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Islanders lease is up at the end of the 2015 season. I have heard about the potential for them to move to Brooklyn, but I guess they’d have to change their nickname.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/105 "2011-08-02T13:42:31Z")

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I think they’d keep the Islanders name. It will be another one of those strange nicknames like the Los Angeles Lakers or the Utah Jazz.

If the Islanders didn’t have the history of the 1980s glory days, then perhaps a new name would be in order.

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/106 "2011-08-02T15:47:29Z")

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In other news, the Devils place Colin White and newly acquired Trent Hunter on waivers with the intention of buying them out.

According to Lamoriello, he’s been shopping White around since the end of the season and hasn’t found any takers, though White does have a NTC and it’s unclear as to whether he’s used it to block anything or otherwise narrowed the possibilities.

White being waived comes as quite a surprise, as does the apparent fact that there were no takers. He is slightly overpaid at $3m/year, but he is still a serviceable 2nd pairing defensive defenseman in the final year of his contract. I’d have thought at the least a team trying to reach the cap floor might take a chance on him for a year.

Hunter being bought out was expected.

Now, having, at minimum, cleared $2m from the cap this year with the White buyout (the full $3m if someone claims him), and turned Rolston’s $5m hit into $633k, the question is, “Is there another trade in the works?”

Lamoriello has suddenly started throwing the word “budget” around, and it’s understandable after last year’s dismal performance leading to even lower attendance than is typical for the team that already struggles with attendance, as well as the pending ownership issues (the minority owners want out), that the team may be less willing to spend to (and beyond) the cap… but the waiving of White (a loyal lifer who is far from a detriment or easily replaceable from within) points to a move to bring someone else at least as good as Colin in.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/107 "2011-08-06T04:40:46Z")

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[Is anyone surprised?](http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/05/sean-avery-taunted-police-fight-fat-little-pigs-nhl-hockey-hollywood-hills-elisha-cuthbert/)

C’mon, Avery, you were doing so well, what the fuck happened? (I can’t wait for the mug shots)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/108 "2011-08-06T16:55:03Z")

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Two months until the start of the season! Hurry up, Oct. 6.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/109 "2011-08-06T20:44:52Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Two months until the start of the season! Hurry up, Oct. 6.

I have it marked on my calender. Hell, I have the start of the pre-season marked down!

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/110 "2011-08-06T22:27:29Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Islanders lease is up at the end of the 2015 season. I have heard about the potential for them to move to Brooklyn, but I guess they’d have to change their nickname.

Last I looked Brooklyn was still on Long Island and still part o New York City. They’d certainly be more New York Islanders than the football Giants are New York.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/111 "2011-08-15T23:13:58Z")

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> **[Crosby has more post-concussion symptoms](https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/6863694/sidney-crosby-pittsburgh-penguins-had-post-concussion-symptoms-gm-says)**
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> Sidney Crosby has been continuing his normal offseason workout routine, but the Penguins captain has had some post-concussion symptoms this summer, Penguins general manager Ray Shero said Monday.

Wow, not good. At this point it’s hard to imagine this won’t effect his career in some ways. Not saying it’s over now, but it’s hard to play the game without a few knocks on the head now and then. And after the lasting effects of this one, it would be truly negligent to not handle the rest of his playing days with an extra degree of caution.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/112 "2011-08-16T00:31:06Z")

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I initially freaked out on hearing that, but Ray Shero says that Sid’s still working out – unlike the last time when he had to stop. So it sounds more like they’re being extra cautious, considering that he’s their star player, plus more and more we’re hearing about concussions and how to deal with him.

(My friends and I in the Penguins community though are still holding one of our official “Prayer Circles”. Dammit)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/113 "2011-08-16T00:35:17Z")

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For your reading pleasure, [here](http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/find-all-of-our-best-and-worst-sweaters-of-all-time-posts-right-here/) is a list of best and worst sweaters that NBC Sports has put together during the offseason.

There have been some UGLY jerseys over the years. The NHL got a little too greedy with the alternate jerseys in the 1990s.

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/114 "2011-08-16T01:00:02Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> For your reading pleasure, [here](http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/find-all-of-our-best-and-worst-sweaters-of-all-time-posts-right-here/) is a list of best and worst sweaters that NBC Sports has put together during the offseason.
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> There have been some UGLY jerseys over the years. The NHL got a little too greedy with the alternate jerseys in the 1990s.

[This]([http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b154/spyboy1/TSG](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b154/spyboy1/TSG) Blog/StLouisBluesAlt96.jpg) St. Louis Blue disaster (that was thankfully vetoed by Mike Keenan) referenced in the linked article makes the Islanders’ Captain Fishstick look as timeless as Chicago’s Indian head or Montreal’s CH.

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/115 "2011-08-16T01:58:58Z")

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Former Vancouver Canuck Rick Rypien [found dead](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/jets-forward-rypien-found-dead/article2130621/) at the age of 27.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/116 "2011-08-16T02:27:00Z")

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Ugh, I just read about this as well. He didn’t even get to enjoy the Stanley Cup run.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/117 "2011-08-16T12:05:44Z")

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I hate to say it but I think it was suicide.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/118 "2011-08-17T02:29:13Z")

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In the comments of [this](http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/15/another-sad-end-rick-rypien-found-dead-at-age-27/) story, someone mentions that Rypien watched his best friend commit suicide in front of him? That seems incredibly unlikely.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/119 "2011-08-29T19:28:36Z")

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This is just cracking me up…[Lady Gaga apparently went to the MTV VMAs as Roberto Luongo](http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Apparently-Lady-Gaga-went-to-MTV-VMAs-as-Robert?urn=nhl-wp11296). 😃

I think she’s missing about 2.5 gallons of hair gel to truly get the right effect, though!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/120 "2011-09-01T01:24:13Z")

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[NHL veteran Wade Belak found dead in Toronto condo](http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/NHL-veteran-Wade-Belak-found-dead-in-Toronto-con;_ylt=Ahd2Bu3NeuRnLQz.se3n5nt7vLYF?urn=nhl-wp11533)

Fuck – he was only 35, and left a wife and two kids.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/121 "2011-09-01T01:30:23Z")

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Damn, not another one. ☹

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generic-nhl-offseason-thread/585825/122 "2011-09-01T02:00:14Z")

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And looks like Marc [Savard](http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374868)is done for good. He won’t be cleared to play this year by the Bruins.

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