# Genital mutilation of young girls. But it's a religious thing! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 23, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057 "2017-04-23T11:44:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/442 "2018-12-06T02:17:57Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Then you should rethink your position, because everything you said applies equally well to FGM. It’s not a “position.” I don’t remember any intense pain because I was one day old. I wasn’t thinking how getting the tip lopped off would affect my future sex life because those brain cells hadn’t developed yet. > [@SlackerInc](#): > > But that’s the risk of taking a definitive stance on any controversial topic. I’m sure being anti-FGM doesn’t go over well in places where FGM is the cultural norm. If you’re as suffocating in real life as you are on the SDMB, it’s not the FGM issue they’re objecting to… ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/443 "2018-12-06T02:38:40Z")
Don’t you worry: people love me IRL. And I don’t just mean my wife, family, etc. I have been driving for Uber the last few months, and I constantly get told (usually by people 20 years younger) that I’m the coolest. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/444 "2018-12-06T03:01:08Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Don’t you worry: people love me IRL. And I don’t just mean my wife, family, etc. I have been driving for Uber the last few months, and I constantly get told (usually by people 20 years younger) that I’m the coolest. 🆒 Lol. You don’t know how sad that is. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/445 "2018-12-06T03:02:20Z")
One of the most convincing things on the internet is when people crow about how awesome they are and how much people love them IRL. Definitely no one ever makes that shit up! ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/446 "2018-12-06T03:08:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > One of the most convincing things on the internet is when people crow about how awesome they are and how much people love them IRL. Definitely no one ever makes that shit up! > 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/447 "2018-12-06T03:10:25Z")
A grown up isn’t super pleased that his 20 something Uber passengers think he’s cool. He wonders why he’s driving an Uber and seeks the validation of people 20 years his junior. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/448 "2018-12-06T03:14:08Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > A grown up isn’t super pleased that his 20 something Uber passengers think he’s cool. He wonders why he’s driving an Uber and seeks the validation of people 20 years his junior. Then maybe being a grownup is overrated. (One of my favorite people to hang out with is my 18 year old son.) I am a slacker, after all: how “grownup” is that? 😉 As for driving Uber, sure: it doesn’t pay very well. But I love it, and I’d do it for free. It’s fun, it’s easy (key for a slacker: I couldn’t handle most jobs no matter how high the pay), and I love talking to people. And I already made a good friend that I hang out with regularly (and yes, he’s 20 years younger than I am). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/449 "2018-12-06T03:21:26Z")
You think you are super intuitive and clever, yet you ended up being a stay at home dad until this Uber thing came along. And it’s not because your wife has some great paying job, it’s because your entire adult life you haven’t been able to get a job that would be worth more than a babysitter. I never get personal in these forums, I challenge anyone to a point where I did, but you bring it there. You strut and strut o the basis of the lamest of intellect. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/450 "2018-12-06T03:40:12Z")
Interesting to see people take such an elitist, disdainful attitude toward Uber drivers, many of whom are immigrants and POC. Or for that matter toward people more broadly who don’t have high-powered careers and stay home with their kids. Not a great look. :dubious: BTW, my wife, who has two master’s degrees, does have a really good job as far as I’m concerned. Middle class pay, good benefits, tons of vacation time, and she’s doing something that is sorely needed in society and for which she has received many plaudits. In only her second year teaching high school, she has already been tapped as a veteran teacher and instructional leader to go to another high school in the district and mentor a first year teacher who is struggling. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/451 "2018-12-06T03:46:55Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Interesting to see people take such an elitist, disdainful attitude toward Uber drivers, many of whom are immigrants and POC. Or for that matter toward people more broadly who don’t have high-powered careers and stay home with their kids. Not a great look. :dubious: “People” didn’t take that attitude, you wimp. I did. And newsflash, you aren’t an immigrant trying to gain a foothold. You are a lazy pseudo intellectual bullshitter who managed to get a woman to pay his rent. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/452 "2018-12-06T03:54:07Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > You are a lazy pseudo intellectual bullshitter who managed to get a woman to pay his rent. Easy there. There is nothing wrong with being a stay-at-home parent and homemaker whether one’s male or female, and it’s a separate issue from being a lazy pseudo intellectual bullshitter. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/453 "2018-12-06T03:56:40Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Easy there. There is nothing wrong with being a stay-at-home parent and homemaker whether one’s male or female, and it’s a separate issue from being a lazy pseudo intellectual bullshitter. In this case, I don’t think so. He used to really boost his brainy cred, bragging bout how he was top percentile in predicting shit. But it apparently didn’t garner a job worth paying for daycare. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/454 "2018-12-06T04:09:15Z")
A genius prediction dude ought to make a couple bucks off the stock market, right? How much of that has happened? My guess is nothing because his wife is also wise to the fact that he’s full of shit and doesn’t let him touch the bank accounts. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/455 "2018-12-06T04:17:24Z")
I’ll just stand back and let you keep digging. (Just in case the feminists reading this didn’t catch it the first time: it was clearly no accident that the disgusted accusation you hurled was specifically that I let a—gasp!—_woman_ pay my rent. Something no _real_ man would do, amirite? :dubious:) ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/456 "2018-12-06T04:18:10Z")
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever encountered an anti-circumcision zealot who WASN’T a raging narcisstic asshole? It’s, like, a requirement, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/457 "2018-12-06T04:24:25Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > I’m giving up on this conversation. Just a quick note for people lecturing about how minuscule the damage of circumcision can be, and how people are complaining about some infinitesimal, barely noticeable under a microscope, loss of sensitivity only because they can’t stop talking about their small dicks from mom’s basement. > > Some people lose pretty much _all_ penile sensitivity as a result of circumcision. Which means a penis about as sensitive as a finger, and not just no orgasms, but also no pleasurable sensation during sexual activity (be it masturbation or intercourse), and great difficulty in reaching what is essentially a reflexive ejaculation. And added to these direct issues, the serious indirect problems it causes with their partners. > > But of course, there aren’t enough of them to even begin to argue against respectable bronze age shepherd’s traditions, the complex issue of washing an uncut penis, or the importance of looking like dad. Oh hi, you shit-sucking Nazi scumbag. So glad you’ve decided to address this issue in the Pit where you can’t go whining to Bone when you’re called out for being a shit-sucking Nazi scumbag. Best Chanukah present I could have asked for. I’ll be back to expand on this theme at length, but for now, go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/458 "2018-12-06T04:27:02Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever encountered an anti-circumcision zealot who WASN’T a raging narcisstic asshole? It’s, like, a requirement, I think. You’re not at all begging the question there or anything. :rolleyes: (Are there “zealots” who are modest and reserved? :dubious:) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/459 "2018-12-06T05:18:29Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever encountered an anti-circumcision zealot who WASN’T a raging narcisstic asshole? It’s, like, a requirement, I think. The Venn Diagram of them being MRAs is predictable as well. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/460 "2018-12-06T05:26:04Z")
No, I won’t keep digging. I am not happy I went over that edge. Can’t really take anything back because I’d be lying if I said I didn’t kinda really think it. But what I said was unseemly in a way I don’t like, so I apologize for that rudeness. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genital-mutilation-of-young-girls-but-its-a-religious-thing/785057/461 "2018-12-06T05:52:59Z")
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