# Genius/Horror ingredient swaps you have made

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [August 13, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561 "2021-08-13T02:03:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Tarataratara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tarataratara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarataratara)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/81 "2021-08-18T23:32:03Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Isn’t there a recipe for chicken prepared similarly, one that was promoted by one of the mayo brands?

Yes, it’s a Hellman’s recipe, and pretty good. You add some Parmesan cheese. It’s nice with spaghetti and marinara. I should make it again soon.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/82 "2021-08-19T01:17:13Z")

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A substitution for dill seeds that would have worked is caraway (which is also a typical spice used in sauerkraut.) To me, the flavor is extremely similar, perhaps a bit milder.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/83 "2021-08-19T01:24:54Z")

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> [@Tarataratara](#):
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> Yes, it’s a Hellman’s recipe, and pretty good. You add some Parmesan cheese. It’s nice with spaghetti and marinara. I should make it again soon.

Mayo, in general, is great also for anything grilled as part of your marinade or just dry rub. It helps it stick to whatever you’re grilling, gives it a bit of tang, and aids in browning.

A bit of googling shows this article:

> **[The Secret Ingredient That Improves Meat Every Time (Published 2019)](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/dining/mayo-meat-marinade.html)**
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> You may love it. You may hate it. But a smear of mayonnaise before cooking makes beef, pork, chicken and fish better as if by magic. J. Kenji López-Alt explains.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Around the same time a friend of mine was making mushroom stroganoff for dinner but couldn’t find the sour cream he’d just bought. “Oh,” his roommate said, “Sorry, I ate it.” Like, with a spoon, straight from the tub.

So, wait. Your roommate eats an entire tub of sour cream and _you’re_ the one who gets made fun of after all that? (OK, I get that sour cream is another cultured milk product, and we eat yogurt, so why not sour cream, but who the fuck eats a tub of sour cream?)

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/84 "2021-08-19T08:50:41Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> So, wait. Your roommate eats an entire tub of sour cream and _you’re_ the one who gets made fun of after all that? (OK, I get that sour cream is another cultured milk product, and we eat yogurt, so why not sour cream, but who the fuck eats a tub of sour cream?)

It’s an honest mistake…

[https://3hlboz3j490o1qmcr2gaz7i1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/TacoFlavored.jpg](https://3hlboz3j490o1qmcr2gaz7i1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/TacoFlavored.jpg)

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/85 "2021-08-19T12:36:11Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> So, wait. Your roommate eats an entire tub of sour cream and _you’re_ the one who gets made fun of after all that? (OK, I get that sour cream is another cultured milk product, and we eat yogurt, so why not sour cream, but who the fuck eats a tub of sour cream?)

Believe me, he came in for his share of ribbing, too.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/86 "2021-08-21T01:26:20Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> who the fuck eats a tub of sour cream?

Someone was stoned.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/87 "2021-08-21T03:15:27Z")

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I wanted to add cinnamon to my coffee one night, and grabbed the cardamom shaker instead. I was surprised at how good it tasted. I guess coffee and cardamom is a popular combination in Scandinavia.

I was making moussaka once and decided to experiment. Instead of oregano and basil, I added some curry powder to the tomato sauce and bechamel, and a new dish was born: Moussaka Orientale!

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/88 "2021-08-21T03:24:27Z")

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In high school we use to go out for ice cream after evening meetings. My go to order was mint chip ice cream with TAB.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/89 "2021-08-21T03:25:08Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I wanted to add cinnamon to my coffee one night, and grabbed the cardamom shaker instead. I was surprised at how good it tasted. I guess coffee and cardamom is a popular combination in Scandinavia.

Arabic coffee is often made with cardamom (and the Arab place I go to for extra-fine/Turkish-grind coffee will grind it in with the coffee for you.) Interesting about Scandinavian coffee–I did not know that, but I did notice that Scandinavians will sometimes use cardamom in their sweets and it seems to be the only European country that uses the spice in their indigenous cuisine. There’s a fantastic Swedish bakery around here that sells sweet caradmom buns that are to die for.

ETA: Just found this interesting article about Scandinavia’s love of cardamom:  
[https://www.ozy.com/around-the-world/the-hidden-history-of-scandinavias-love-of-cardamom/82046/](https://www.ozy.com/around-the-world/the-hidden-history-of-scandinavias-love-of-cardamom/82046/)

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/90 "2021-08-21T03:31:31Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> So, wait. Your roommate eats an entire tub of sour cream and _you’re_ the one who gets made fun of after all that? (OK, I get that sour cream is another cultured milk product, and we eat yogurt, so why not sour cream, but who the fuck eats a tub of sour cream?)

I had a Russian girlfriend who ate sour cream mixed with raisins right out of the tub. It’s actually quite tasty! (Mind you, it was a fairly small tub.)

**EDIT:** Great article about cardamom. Thank you!

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/91 "2021-08-22T15:51:03Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Someone was stoned.

Someone was 100% stoned.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/92 "2021-08-23T10:57:07Z")

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I’ve been making iced tea all summer, and playing around with lemonade making Arnie Palmers of varying proportions. One day I was out of lemonade and tried orange juice instead.

Awful!!

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/93 "2021-08-23T14:37:36Z")

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> **[Russian tea culture | "Russian Tea" in other countries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_tea_culture#%22Russian_Tea%22_in_other_countries)**
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> There is a beverage called "Russian Tea" which likely originated in America. This drink is especially popular in the Southeastern United States where it is traditionally served at social events during Advent and Christmastide. Recipes vary, but the most common ingredients are loose black tea, orange juice (or orange peel), cinnamon, and cloves; some recipes use instant tea powder. Other juices such as lemon and pineapple are sometimes called for. Cream may also be added when serving. A homemade '...

As I first learned it, just instant iced tea and Tang.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/94 "2021-08-23T14:39:58Z")

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Shazaam!

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/95 "2021-08-23T14:55:25Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> As I first learned it, just instant iced tea and Tang.

Huh. Basically an Arnold Palmer with Tang instead of lemonade. I can see that working well.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genius-horror-ingredient-swaps-you-have-made/948561/96 "2021-08-23T20:48:48Z")

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Ran out of white flour while making chocolate chip cookies so I used a mix of white flour and whole-wheat flour. The results were surprising.

The cookie dough had a slight grit but the flavor was more complex and absolutely delicious. It definitely tasted better than the last time when I followed the recipe (I always sample a generous portion of the dough).

Thinking I had made a great discovery I threw them in the oven and ended up with chocolate chip cookies which tasted more like bread than cookies. Not great.

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