# Genre Fiction Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 19, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387 "2011-05-19T01:03:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/41 "2011-05-20T17:22:05Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> Because Ed’s _always_ scum. Always.

Sorry, that’s me now–last three games I’ve played here I’ve been scum.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/42 "2011-05-20T17:23:19Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> How’s things over at Mellophant, IS?

Why don’t you jaunt on over and see?

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/43 "2011-05-20T17:29:51Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Why don’t you jaunt on over and see?

Zing!

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/44 "2011-05-20T17:35:09Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Sorry, that’s me now–last three games I’ve played here I’ve been scum.

Well, then, you and Ed should have plenty to talk about on the night boards.

😉

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/45 "2011-05-20T19:56:50Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> :eek: Good lord! Weren’t you in M2?

Yep. That was a fun game – **storyteller** is still my hero.

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/46 "2011-05-20T20:01:19Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> It’s not a huge deal because (a) you only have about 5 minutes to do it and (b) even though the mod allows it, other players might lynch you for editing.

That makes sense, just a different dynamic than I’m used to. I think this came up in one of the earlier games when someone posted to the game thread instead of the scum boards and quickly edited the post. I believe they were lynched for it, though, so I guess that shows it’s not much of a problem.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/47 "2011-05-20T21:57:46Z")

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Oh, the heck with it. I’m in.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/48 "2011-05-20T22:01:37Z")

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As long as we’re shooting the breeze waiting for the game to start, I’m curious about the fact that there are rarely, if ever, no-flip games here. (A fact for which I am grateful; playing in a no-flip game would make me crazy) But I was curious if other than Mr. Blockey, do most game creators find them unfulfilling or is it just a matter of taste?

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/49 "2011-05-20T22:05:15Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> As long as we’re shooting the breeze waiting for the game to start, I’m curious about the fact that there are rarely, if ever, no-flip games here. (A fact for which I am grateful; playing in a no-flip game would make me crazy) But I was curious if other than Mr. Blockey, do most game creators find them unfulfilling or is it just a matter of taste?

I thought about putting one in [game redacted] – or, more to the point, I thought about putting a Janitor in that game, which would have potentially resulted in a no-flip death or two.

And doesn’t Pleo use a form of no-flip in his Conspiracy games?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/50 "2011-05-20T22:08:21Z")

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I’d call Conspiracy delayed flip, not no-flip. I’m almost positive that I’ve seen one or two games where there were absolutely no reveals until the game ended and so the town really had to rely on scum hunting and were unable to calculate things like LyLo.

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/51 "2011-05-20T22:13:17Z")

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I vaguely recall something along those lines, but I don’t think I played in the game in question – like you, I think that would drive me absolutely to drink.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/52 "2011-05-20T22:26:41Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> As long as we’re shooting the breeze waiting for the game to start, I’m curious about the fact that there are rarely, if ever, no-flip games here. (A fact for which I am grateful; playing in a no-flip game would make me crazy) But I was curious if other than Mr. Blockey, do most game creators find them unfulfilling or is it just a matter of taste?

Essentially, It’s a matter of balance (less info means it will be harder for town), and whether such a feature will make a game more fun. I personally don’t enjoy no flip games, so I probably would never run one.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/53 "2011-05-20T22:30:07Z")

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Signups: (ONLY 4 spots left, get em while they’re hot).

1. Tom Scud
2. Mahaloth
3. Zeriel
4. Hirka T’Bawa
5. Astral Rejection
6. Special Ed
7. TexCat
8. fubbleskag
9. Inner Stickler
10. nesta
11. pedescribe
12. Normal Phase
13. fluiddruid
14. SisterCoyote
15. Winston Smith
16. Stanislaus
17. 
18. 
19. 
20. 
21. Pleonast (pre-emptible)

Subs:  
ShadowFacts

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/54 "2011-05-20T22:41:04Z")

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I play a ton of no-flip games. They are indeed difficult.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/55 "2011-05-21T00:11:44Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> As long as we’re shooting the breeze waiting for the game to start, I’m curious about the fact that there are rarely, if ever, no-flip games here. (A fact for which I am grateful; playing in a no-flip game would make me crazy) But I was curious if other than Mr. Blockey, do most game creators find them unfulfilling or is it just a matter of taste?

I’ve played in Hoopy’s false-flip game, though that one was explicitly Gastard. And there was a death-Miller Cop in Screamers Mafia, which made the whole thing very fun. Sort of.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/56 "2011-05-21T00:17:06Z")

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Cool thanks. I was just wondering if it was a philosophy of mafia difference or personal preference.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/57 "2011-05-21T06:12:45Z")

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I hope there is still place for me, I want to play 🙂

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/58 "2011-05-21T07:21:46Z")

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> [@SisterCoyote](#):
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> like you, I think that would drive me absolutely to drink.

I just noticed this. I want it on the record, any posts I make in game can be assumed to be made with a G&T in hand; that should help with the withering barbs I’m sure I’ll be casting. (A screwdriver if it’s in the morning, I have some standards.)

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/59 "2011-05-21T10:19:33Z")

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hi all! first time here although i was a sub for the Thundercats game. good to see new and familiar people.

with that, i’m in.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/60 "2011-05-21T10:43:34Z")

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Hi Gnarly, I am so glad you’re playing this one 🙂

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