# Genre Fiction Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 19, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387 "2011-05-19T01:03:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 45

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/881 "2011-06-06T22:52:12Z")

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NETA: Since Hirka did explicitly say “let’s tie it up” in that post, btw, that changes my evaluation of both Zeriel and Hirka, I think.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/882 "2011-06-06T22:56:09Z")

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Son-of-NETA: Actually I take that back. That one was a full six hours prior to end of day; that’s much too far out to hold people to “don’t tie it up or it’s anti-town”.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/883 "2011-06-06T22:57:05Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
>
> Want to apologize for your false statement or careless counting there, **MHaye**?

Not really, but I’ll do it anyway.

Sorry.

I didn’t check Astral’s vote at that point, which was stupid of me.

Normal, my gut feeling is that an ALE drinker wouldn’t blow up that way because they have the support of their team whereas Slumlords and self aligned players don’t. I might be wrong, but I’m not in favour of lynching him just because he expressed frustration.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/884 "2011-06-06T23:00:03Z")

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That’s not why he got into trouble.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/885 "2011-06-06T23:12:32Z")

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Black. White. The swirling color, like oil and water never mixing to form grey. A man cursed by such perceptions will never find friends.

They will all remember, when they turned on him how he cursed them. When they asked him to defend himself, his only reply was “I do not defend myself to scum like you.” Near the end of the day, his only defense was a tirade that ended with “Betrayers, all of you, whores and pedophiles! When the enemy has you under his heel and you cry out ‘Save Us!’ I will look down, smiling, and say ‘No.’”  
When finally they stuck the knife into his belly; his body twitched, and spitting blood and phlegm, he shrieked, “DO IT! TWIST THE FUCKING KNIFE, AND END THIS CHARADE!”

# gnarlycharlie, aka **Rorschact** is dead. He was a member of the Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords.

Day 2 Vote Tally  
gnarlycharlie(8): Mahaloth[718], Hirka T’Bawa[723], Astral Rejection[725], [del]Normal Phase[del][735-850][/del][/del], gnarlycharlie[740], Pleonast[760], Tom Scud[863], Inner Stickler[869], nesta[873]  
Pleonast(4): pedescribe[775], Winston Smith[790], fluiddruid[791], MHaye[877]  
Inner Stickler(3): SisterCoyote[792], Silver Jan[837], Stanislaus[849]  
Hirka T’Bawa(2): Weedy[833], [del]Tom Scud[del][839-860][/del][/del], Zeriel[841]  
Astral Rejection(1): [del]gnarlycharlie[del][719-740][/del][/del], TexCat[844]  
Silver Jan(1): Normal Phase[850]  
TexCat(0): [del]Stanislaus[del][751-849][/del][/del]  
Did Not Vote:  
With these votes gnarlycharlie has been lynched.

# Coin toss: 4 Tails, 1 Heads

Night 2 has begun. Day 3 will begin Wednesday June 8th at 7pm ET.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/886 "2011-06-06T23:55:05Z")

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Ok, now I’m annoyed.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/887 "2011-06-06T23:57:06Z")

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Red, as always I love your color posts.

Did Gnarly ever finger anybody besides me? I’m in class again (yay Mondays) and we all know hat happened last time I tried to post from memory on my phone.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/888 "2011-06-07T00:24:11Z")

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☹

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/889 "2011-06-07T01:04:58Z")

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Buggery.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/890 "2011-06-07T02:24:35Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Bear in mind you’re talking to someone who subbed out of a Meeko-gone-apeshit game.

link, please!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/891 "2011-06-07T02:32:44Z")

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> [@fubbleskag](#):
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> link, please!

[Weird Wild West](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=526406&highlight=weird+wild+west)

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/892 "2011-06-07T05:38:16Z")

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Oh Bugger!

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/893 "2011-06-07T14:51:52Z")

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hi all! sorry i wasn’t able to contribute anymore. moving houses over the weekend just took the starch out of me. i was barely able to contribute to my other game which is in it’s final stages. i tried catching up here but i just zonked out.

as i said earlier, don’t be too in love with your own logic. go Town!

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/894 "2011-06-07T15:09:12Z")

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That sucks. Sorry, Charlie.

Let me know when I can vote Pleonast again. 😛

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/895 "2011-06-07T21:00:15Z")

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Sorry for posting strategy at Night, but I’m online now and might not be at Dawn.

> [@MHaye](#):
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> Something Pleo said in one of his long posts bothered me.He’s very confident he knows what Gnarlycharlie is thinking.
> 
> If Pleo’s vote was based on Gnarly voting for someone Gnarly claimed was not an ALE drinker, he’d have a consistent ground for his vote; but he doesn’t. He asserts Gnarly is not an ALE drinker. (He does this by claiming that Gnarly thinks Gnarly is not an ALE drinker; but this is only possible if Gnarly is not in fact an ALE drinker.)
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> Further, he then votes for Gnarly, even though he plainly believes Gnarly is not an ALE drinker. This behaviour contradicts his claimed principle, the breaching of which was the ground for his vote of Gnarly.
> 
> **Vote Pleonast** for the contradiction.

I’m not sure why you’re using such convoluted logic. Yes, I know what **gnarlycharlie** was thinking (or not) because they told us:

> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
>
> so many votes. why am i not surprised?  
> so in love with their logic, on Day 2 at that.  
> to help you along i will,  
> **Unvote Astral**  
> **Vote gnarlycharlie**
> 
> i will NOT unvote for the rest of the Day even to save myself. i will continue with the limited time i have to contribute and share my thoughts. i may even ‘vote’ even if they will note count ala **Pleo** or just FOS.
> 
> with that i continue to pack. good day!

**charlie** did not give any explanation as to why they think the player they voted for is scum (or any other reason why it was pro-town to vote that way). I’m not making any assumptions nor assertions; I’m simply reading what **charlie** wrote (or didn’t write) about their vote.

> [@Red\_Skeezix](#):
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> gnarlycharlie, aka **Rorschact** is dead. He was a member of the Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords.

Trying to avoid trademark infringement? 😉

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/896 "2011-06-08T00:15:01Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Trying to avoid trademark infringement? 😉

Either that or I’m a bad speller.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/897 "2011-06-08T23:25:47Z")

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It is said power draws power, and tonight a great power was unveiled in the desert. The heavens raged, lightning and fire raining down on the bivouac, winds pressing hard against the canvas of the tents; blown sand battering the faces of anyone who dared to prowl in the shadows. And as the sun began to melt away the gloom, those who awakened saw no signs of the disturbance. And eventually everyone did awaken, to wonder: Was it all a dream?

No one died last night.

It is now Day 3, Night 3 will begin on Monday June 13, 2011 at 7p ET.

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/898 "2011-06-08T23:51:12Z")

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Well. Okay. There is that.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/899 "2011-06-09T00:15:57Z")

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Niiiice.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/900 "2011-06-09T00:21:06Z")

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K. I see no reason not to place my early vote on my top remaining suspicion.

**Vote Astral**

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