# Genre Fiction Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 19, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387 "2011-05-19T01:03:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/121 "2011-05-23T18:30:48Z")
I see IS has adequately explained my skepticism about your statement. And yes, thanks Tom – I forget not everyone uses the same shorthand. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/122 "2011-05-23T18:32:31Z")
Yes, it’s important we all are on familiar ground with terms. I was once lynched for referring to the godfather role as the alpha. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/123 "2011-05-23T18:33:13Z")
Were you scum? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/124 "2011-05-23T18:34:02Z")
Well, I suppose at least I know what a noose is. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/125 "2011-05-23T18:41:59Z")
Mahaloth, do you have any reason to believe that there is a McGuffin (noose or anything else) in the game? I don’t see any way for it to be a part of the game, based on the color, but I’m wondering if you know otherwise and that’s why you asked. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/126 "2011-05-23T19:19:52Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > However, worth asking. > > Is anyone in current possession of the noose? Please state clearly either way. > > I, Mahaloth, do not currently have the noose. What makes you think anyone has the noose? > [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > So they departed the chamber _ **without their prize** _. But instead with new resolve: they would root out those amongst them who stood in their way and claim the totem that they so desired. The colour says that all 21 of us left without their prize; consequently it appears that no-one has it. Or at least, we have no reason to suppose anyone has it. So why do you think someone does? ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/127 "2011-05-23T20:17:23Z")
The noose seems to be implied to be a a win-con, perhaps; otherwise, just generic flavor for a town win? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/128 "2011-05-23T20:19:57Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Were you scum? Nope, plain old vanilla town. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/129 "2011-05-23T20:22:14Z")
Hi, my name is Ed. That’s a lie, my name really isn’t Ed. Well, maybe it is, inasmuch as name is something that people use to label things. So, yes, my name is Ed. I am Town. And my win condition is not as stated in the sample PM given at the beginning of the thread. :smack: oh yes, I went there. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/130 "2011-05-23T20:48:10Z")
Per the first post: > [@](#): > > Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords Per the opening post: > [@](#): > > THE ASSOCIATED LEAGUE OF EVIL HIDES IN YOUR SHADOWS! Evidence that we are, in fact, dealing with a third party or two? I’d say so. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/131 "2011-05-23T20:49:31Z")
Could you be more specific? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/132 "2011-05-23T20:50:24Z")
Oops, forgot to add @Special Ed. I believe your win condition differs because Red, at the time he composed his first post, forgot about the double hammer thing. He already amended one of the rules, and adjusted something else, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him post a new, updated sample PM. For the record, though, my PM is also different from the posted one. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/133 "2011-05-23T20:51:42Z")
And by PM, I mean win condition. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/134 "2011-05-23T20:53:51Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Could you be more specific? I’m guessing this is directed at me. Red has intimated that the color can provide hints about the game state. Since he’s now used two different ways to describe the opposing force, I’d guess that there’s a scum team that can communicate, plus a 3rd party or two that can not communicate, and together they form the “Associated League of Evil.” ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/135 "2011-05-23T20:57:34Z")
:dub: Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords = TOWN Associated League of Evil = SCUM ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/136 "2011-05-23T21:01:24Z")
Indeed. Maybe Astral’s PM says something different? **vote Astral** ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/137 "2011-05-23T21:03:24Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I am Town. > > And my win condition is not as stated in the sample PM given at the beginning of the thread. > > :smack: > > oh yes, I went there. So is your win condition as stated in the edited sample given at post #23? > [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Wincondition: You win when all threats to the Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords have been vanquished AND at least one member of the Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords are alive. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/138 "2011-05-23T21:06:40Z")
I dunno about Astral but that matches my PM’s win condition. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/139 "2011-05-23T21:26:07Z")
Who, I ask myself, would be confused by the label for Town after reading their PM? Not anyone from Town, surely? An explanation needs to be forthcoming: did Astral get a PM telling him he was in CARS and think until now that he was scum? I doubt it. **vote Astral Rejection** ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/140 "2011-05-23T21:32:06Z")
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