# Genre Fiction Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 19, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387 "2011-05-19T01:03:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1401 "2011-06-24T15:03:26Z")
Winston is an experienced player on Idle, right? I remember him going back and forth with Ed (I think it was) early on. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1402 "2011-06-24T15:11:53Z")
Y’know, even if I don’t trust anything out of an admitted scum’s mouth, that can’t be read as anything other than an admission of scumhood. **vote Winston** ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1403 "2011-06-24T15:17:58Z")
**Red, if we have a hammer vote, how will that affect the timing of the day/night cycle?** ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1404 "2011-06-24T15:26:27Z")
Jesus Christ. **vote: Winston Smith** ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1405 "2011-06-24T15:27:36Z")
\*\*unvote **vote: Winston Smith** ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1406 "2011-06-24T15:34:02Z")
I am really, really hoping that is some sort of deliberate ploy. I don’t want to see a game destroyed like this. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1407 "2011-06-24T15:35:50Z")
And yes, Winston knows damn well what bussing means. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1408 "2011-06-24T15:45:40Z")
And really, he could at least have had the decency to vote for himself - I think we’re working on the record here. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1409 "2011-06-24T15:49:51Z")
No, it has to be fake. Half our team threw Lucifer (same person) to the wolves when we were scum together in a game on Giraffe, he had no problem with it at all. What the heck is he trying to do? If we tend to believe him, and assuming he is mafia, then we presumably lynch Sister Coyote tomorrow (since she has no power role claim, and Pedescribe does). Say she’s mafia. Then Pedescribe goes next – could lynching a town tracker after the lynch of two scum in any world be worth it? I can’t even imagine it. Say SisC is town and Pedescribe isn’t – then the scum get a mislynch and conceivably Pedescribe gets town cred he doesn’t deserve? Maybe. Remotely plausible. Say both are actually town – one mislynch, plus my previous reasoning gives Pedescribe suspicion he doesn’t deserve? Doubtful, too convoluted and anyway Pedescribe’s too dangerous to leave alive if he’s town. I just don’t want it to be true. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1410 "2011-06-24T15:51:22Z")
Tom – lol. At least this has blown my trying to figure out Zeriel out of the water. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1411 "2011-06-24T15:56:24Z")
My second thought was that no one on the scum team is currently voting for Winston and they’re hoping we will lynch him, find scum and go after Sister C and pedescribe, burning two mislynches and putting us at LyLo. But we can deal with that another day. Regardless, I have a hard time seeing Winston as anything but scummy and whether he’s faking it or not, I’m not pleased but not surprised. **Unvote nesta** **Vote Winston** ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1412 "2011-06-24T15:57:38Z")
He wasn’t even in the lead and if he had voted for nesta he’d be even further from a vote flip. This doesn’t make sense. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1413 "2011-06-24T15:59:24Z")
One suspects a bad day in real life. I know that contributed when I flamed out as scum. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1414 "2011-06-24T16:08:58Z")
I don’t think we would go after pedescribe if SisC is town. Certainly not automatically, which could, remotely, be the point, as I mentioned. Are two mislynches really LYLO? I thought we had more time than that. 13 today, 11, 9, 7. I guess you’re right if the scum team is large. Assuming no successful roleblocks and so on and so forth. Actually its even worse if Zeriel is telling the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1415 "2011-06-24T16:16:09Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > **Red, if we have a hammer vote, how will that affect the timing of the day/night cycle?** The day will end if a hammer happens, the game will enter a twilight phase (aka no votes counting) until I return to the computer, upon which I will declare night to begin. And we proceed as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1416 "2011-06-24T16:18:19Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Say SisC is town and Pedescribe isn’t – then the scum get a mislynch and conceivably Pedescribe gets town cred he doesn’t deserve? Maybe. Remotely plausible. Let’s say on top of that that **nesta** is scum; the Cunning Plan then gives nesta a couple Days to shake the heat and establishes **pedescribe** as probably-townie. That’s the most Cunning plan I can get out of this anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1417 "2011-06-24T16:19:39Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > The day will end if a hammer happens, the game will enter a twilight phase (aka no votes counting) until I return to the computer, upon which I will declare night to begin. And we proceed as usual. **So 2 day Nights and 5 day Days, starting from whenever Night falls?** ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1418 "2011-06-24T16:25:13Z")
Also, old-timers please help me out: wasn’t there a game some time where a pissy Scum player quit and named his teammates, and the Scum won anyway because nobody believed him? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1419 "2011-06-24T16:50:31Z")
I like the capitals on Cunning Plan. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1420 "2011-06-24T17:13:22Z")
I’m not going to repeat my vote of Yesterday on Stanislaus, mostly because his accusation turned out to be correct. At least, not at this point. It does appear that Winston has had a flare-up. Like Normal, I hope it’s wrong, but I don’t think it is. **Vote Winston Smith**. Hope whatever’s stressing you clears up, Winston. Tom, the most spectacular Mafia flare might have been the player who wanted to Nightkill his own Mafia comrade. (It was played out on the Mafia’s own board, so we didn’t see it until the end.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387.md?page=72)