# Genre Fiction Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 19, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387 "2011-05-19T01:03:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1441 "2011-06-25T00:53:08Z")
Hhmm. you guys went and hammered someone and I went and got hammered. No color tonight. _HIC_ Winston Smith, AKA Sandor Clegane is dead. He was a member of the Associated League of Evil. =============== Coin Toss: Tails, Heads, Tails, Tails, Tails Votes: Day 5 Vote Tally Winston Smith(9): SisterCoyote[1358], pedescribe[1389], Tom Scud[1432], Zeriel[1402], Normal Phase[1405], Inner Stickler[1411], MHaye[1420], Mahaloth[1421], Stanislaus[1437] nesta(1): Weedy[1394] MHaye(0): Did Not Vote:nesta, fluiddruid, Winston Smith With these votes Winston Smith was lynched. ================================= Day 6 starts on Sunday at 7PM ET. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1442 "2011-06-25T01:02:05Z")
Wow, a total scum flame out. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1443 "2011-06-25T01:13:37Z")
Go team! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1444 "2011-06-25T03:33:28Z")
[Sandor Clegane](http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Sandor_Clegane). Could be a strongman type. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1445 "2011-06-25T03:41:35Z")
Not sure what this gets us, but once again updating Astral’s vote list: Day 1 Tom Scud vf Astral Rejection 136 Stanislaus vf Astral Rejection 139 TexCat vf Astral Rejection 141 Mahaloth vf Astral Rejection 154 Zeriel vf Astral Rejection 160 Normal Phase vf Astral Rejection 207 [del]Stanislaus unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 211 [del]Tom Scud unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 236 [del]Normal Phase unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 237 Special Ed vf Astral Rejection 245 Astral Rejection vf Special Ed 246 Normal Phase vf Sister Coyote 317 [del]Normal Phase unvote Sister Coyote[/del], vf gnarlycharlie 318 gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection 324 Silver Jan vf Astral Rejection 327 Winston Smith vf Pleonast 328 Fluiddruid vf Pleonast 356 Hirka T’Bawa vf Mahaloth 398 Pedescribe vf Sister Coyote 399 Weedy vf Sister Coyote 407 [del]Hirka T’Bawa unvote Mahaloth[/del], vf Sister Coyote 414 [del]Silver Jan unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 428 [del]Astral Rejection unvote Special Ed[/del], vf Sister Coyote 451 Sister Coyote vf Astral Rejection 466 Pleonast vf Sister Coyote 487 fubbleskag vf Astral Rejection 490 Inner Stickler vf Astral Rejection 492 [del]Special Ed unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 507 nesta vf fubbleskag 523 Pleonast vf fubbleskag 530 Hirka T’Bawa vf Pleonast (four times!) 536 Normal Phase vf Pleonast 540 [del]Pedescribe unvote Sister Coyote[/del] 545 Pedescribe vf Pleonast 546 Stanislaus vf Zeriel 560 Astral Rejection vf gnarlycharlie 569 Silver Jan vf gnarlycharlie 581 Tom Scud vf fubbleskag 583 Special Ed vf fubbleskag 603 [del]Silver Jan blues an unvote of gnarlycharlie[/del] (Red counts it anyway) 615 Silver Jan vf fubbleskag 624 Weedy vf fubbleskag 626 MHaye vf Zeriel 627 [del]Hirka T’Bawa unvote Pleonast[/del], vf fubbleskag 635 [del]fubbleskag unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 636 fubbleskag vf Pleonast 641 [del]TexCat unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf fubbleskag 645 [del]Hirka T’Bawa unvote fubbleskag[/del], vf Pleonast 649 [del]Zeriel unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf Hirka T’Bawa 653 No votes by Day end: everybody voted! Day 2 Mahaloth vf gnarlycharlie 718 gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection 719 Hirka T’Bawa vf gnarlycharlie 723 Astral Rejection vf gnarlycharlie 725 Normal Phase vf gnarlycharlie 735 [del]gnarlycharlie unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf gnarlycharlie 740 Stanislaus vf TexCat 751 Pleonast vf gnarlycharlie 760 Pedescribe vf Pleonast 775 Winston Smith vf Pleonast 790 Fluiddruid vf Pleonast 791 Sister Coyote vf Inner Stickler 792 Weedy vf Hirka T’Bawa 833 Silver Jan vf Inner Stickler 837 Tom Scud vf Hirka T’Bawa 839 Zeriel vf Hirka T’Bawa 841 TexCat vf Astral Rejection 844 Stanislaus vf Inner Stickler 849 [del]Normal Phase unvote gnarlycharlie[/del], vf Silver Jan 850 [del]Tom Scud unvote Hirka T’Bawa[/del] 860 Tom Scud vf gnarlycharlie 863 Inner Stickler vf gnarlycharlie 869 nesta vf gnarlycharlie 873 MHaye vf Pleonast 877 No votes by Day end: everybody voted! Day 3 - I note here that Normal Phase has done exactly what I’m doing in post 910. Well, darn. Onward! Mahaloth vf Astral Rejection 900 Normal Phase vf Silver Jan 905 Fluiddruid vf Pleonast 921 Tom Scud vf Astral Rejection 928 [del]Tom Scud unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 931 [del]Mahaloth unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 965 Silver Jan vf Inner Stickler 978 Weedy vf Inner Stickler 984 Stanislaus vf Inner Stickler 1000 Zeriel vf Hirka T’Bawa 1001 TexCat vf Winston Smith 1002 Astral Rejection vf TexCat 1005 Normal Phase vf TexCat 1009 Tom Scud vf Zeriel 1019 Sister Coyote vf TexCat 1021 Hirka T’Bawa vf Zeriel 1022 Winston Smith vf TexCat 1029 Mahaloth vf Hirka T’Bawa 1031 [del]Fluiddruid unvote Pleonast[/del], vf TexCat 1035 Inner Stickler vf Texcat 1039 [del]TexCat unvote Winston Smith[/del], vf Zeriel 1041 MHaye vf Inner Stickler 1064 [del]TexCat unvote Zeriel[/del], vf Sister Coyote 1068 nesta vf TexCat 1069 No votes by Day end: pedescribe, Pleonast Day 4 Inner Stickler vf pedescribe 1094 SisterCoyote vf Inner Stickler 1095 Normal Phase vf Silver Jan 1108 [del]SisterCoyote unvote Inner Stickler[/del] 1120 Zeriel vf pedescribe 1124 Silver Jan vf pedescribe 1128 Stanislaus vf Inner Stickler 1131 [del]Stanislaus unvote Inner Stickler[/del] 1139 Winston Smith vf Mahaloth 1159 Sister Coyote vf Winston Smith 1167 [del]Winston Smith unvote Mahaloth[/del] 1173 Winston Smith vf Silver Jan 1188 Weedy vf Silver Jan 1212 [del]Weedy unvote Silver Jan[/del] 1213 Astral Rejection vf Silver Jan 1224 Weedy vf MHaye 1246 Stanislaus vf Weedy 1277 Mahaloth vf pedescribe 1281 Tom Scud vf Silver Jan 1282 - Tom Scud announces he will shift vote to pedescribe to avoid tie if needed [del]Stanislaus unvote Weedy[/del] 1294 Stanislaus vf Silver Jan 1294 [del]Mahaloth unvote pedescribe[/del] 1295 Mahaloth vf Silver Jan 1295 [del]Zeriel unvote pedescribe[/del] 1299 Zeriel vf Silver Jan 1299 [del]Silver Jan unvote pedescribe[/del] 1300 Silver Jan vf Silver Jan 1300 MHaye vf Stanislaus 1304 nesta vf Silver Jan No votes by Day end: pedescribe, fluiddruid Key: Blue = known town Green = suspected, claimed, investigated town (explained below) Purple = third party Red = known scum Deleted lines show unvotes. Suspected or Claimed town: Inner = Doc Fluid = bomb detector Mahaloth = inventor Tom Scud = coroner (pedescribe = tracker) Not counted = vanilla claims. Also I didn’t color pedescribe green on account of a certain thing Winston said. Plus I didn’t feel like pasting those tags in. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1446 "2011-06-25T18:16:43Z")
Go Town! i just hope there isn’t a scum implosion. takes out the fun. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1447 "2011-06-25T19:39:47Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > [Sandor Clegane](http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Sandor_Clegane). Could be a strongman type. I don’t think there is a strongman of the kills through protection sort, or Astral is unlikely to have lived so long. If there’s one of the other kind, it’s probably the poisoner, and there’s nothing in that site for poison with this character. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1448 "2011-06-25T20:39:42Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > I don’t think there is a strongman of the kills through protection sort, or Astral is unlikely to have lived so long. If there’s one of the other kind, it’s probably the poisoner, and there’s nothing in that site for poison with this character. I thought strongmen could live through a vigilante attack. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1449 "2011-06-25T20:44:27Z")
Oh, maybe. It would fit. I’ve never seen that role, though, only kill through protection and bonus kill. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1450 "2011-06-25T20:49:20Z")
I don’t think I’ve seen it called “strongman”, but I’ve seen roles that had to be killed twice. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1451 "2011-06-25T21:30:41Z")
I was thinking kill through protection; probably doesn’t matter that much. In any case, doesn’t seem much like a Godfather type by that web page. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1452 "2011-06-25T22:01:50Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > I thought strongmen could live through a vigilante attack. “Strongman” has different meanings, depending on whether the player is Town-aligned or Mafia aligned. A Mafia Strongman either has the ability to make the Mafia kill unstoppable, or has a one-off bonus kill. A Town strongman is more often known as a Scotsman. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1453 "2011-06-26T17:56:39Z")
> [@Winston\_Smith](#): > > I can’t believe you guys are fucking bussing me. Fuck you, and fuck this game. > > I’m done. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > It just occurred to me that if is telling the truth, he spent the last few weeks with one teammate absent and another barely present, not to mention Silver Jan’s lynching. And then the former two go and bus _him_. It looks more plausible suddenly, especially if there are only four. In support of this point, here’s Winston to Sis Coyote on Day 2 or 3 (I forget which): > [@Winston\_Smith](#): > > You come out of lurking with this? > > What? > > Pleo makes a half-assed claim, won’t back it up, justify it or explain himself, and you _pop in_ and give him a free pass? > > Oh, and you find a more compelling case on Inner Stickler? > > What case? > > Also, you’re telling us you’re just lurking because you’re busy playing other games? > > Is this some kind of joke? ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1454 "2011-06-26T23:26:10Z")
Once again strange winds blew through the camp during the night, telling the tale of blood and betrayal. After putting down “The Hound”, the party was feeling cheerful, and their spirits began to rise again. That was until the bloodcurdling shriek resounded through the camp just before false dawn. As the survivors raced to the sound, they saw two very well dressed men. One standing over the other holding a blade dripping with gore. The man on the ground choked on his final words, “Anansi, I shall have my revenge on you for this!” With that he pulled open his shirt, revealing a flashing red light. The light seemed to be slowing down as the heartbeats fled his body. That is, until they stopped, with a click and a roar as several of the survivors guts lept several inches to the left. Normal Phase, AKA Nicodemus, A 3rd Party PFK is dead. Pedescribe AKA Harry Dresden, A member of the Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords is dead. fluiddruid AKA Anton Gorodetski (y), A member of the Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords is dead. Zeriel, AKA Mr. Nancy, A member of the Associated League of Evil is dead. Weedy AKA Ford Prefect, A member of the Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords is dead. Mahaloth AKA Ziani Vaatzes, A member of the Consolidated Alliance of Raftdwelling Slumlords is dead. ========================== The following players are still alive: 1. Tom Scud 2. Inner Stickler 3. nesta 4. SisterCoyote 5. Stanislaus 6. MHaye With 6 Players still alive The hammer is set to 5. Due to the size of the game contracting, the Day will be 4 days long and will end on Thursday @ 7p ET. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1455 "2011-06-26T23:58:33Z")
Wasn’t expecting that. Go Town! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1456 "2011-06-27T00:08:58Z")
Uh, wow. Go Town. And holy crap! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1457 "2011-06-27T00:11:23Z")
Holy shit. Guess he used the serial killer after all. For what it’s worth, Winston was vanilla. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1458 "2011-06-27T00:13:47Z")
“He” above being Red. And Normal and I have now played I think five or six games of Mafia and have STILL never been on the same team. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1459 "2011-06-27T00:15:30Z")
On the plus side, I was worrying that if Winston was honestly selling out his scum teammates, we would end up with a bomber victory. That at least is out of the question now. Will update Astral’s vote chart in a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/genre-fiction-mafia/582387/1460 "2011-06-27T00:16:48Z")
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