# Gentlemen, Start Your Conspiracy Theories ("DC Madam" Apparently Dead) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 1, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659 "2008-05-01T19:31:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/1 "2008-05-01T19:31:57Z")
[‘D.C. Madam’ believed dead](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/dc.madam/index.html) > [@](#): > > A woman whom police believe to be Deborah Jeane Palfrey, known as the “D.C. Madam,” was found dead in Florida Thursday, according to Tarpon Springs police. > > The body has not been positively identified. > > “Detectives are investigating an apparent suicide of a (white female) that appears to be in her early 50s,” Tarpon Springs police said in a news release… ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/2 "2008-05-01T19:51:26Z")
The [MSN story](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24408142>1=43001) seems a bit more definite about it: > [@](#): > > The body of 52-year-old Deborah Jeane Palfrey was found hanged in a shed near her mother’s manufactured home Thursday morning, police in Tarpon Springs said. Palfrey left a suicide note but police did not disclose its contents. Police said Palfrey’s mother found the body. Found by her mother, and there was a suicide note. I’m wondering if she felt guilty about the death of one of her employees, who committed suicide a while back (referenced at the end of the article). ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/3 "2008-05-01T20:41:25Z")
What to make of [this](http://www.infowars.com/?p=1862)? > [@](#): > > DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey predicted she would be “suicided” on several occasions both recently and as far back as 17 years ago … > > Palfrey also said that she was at risk of being killed and that authorities would make it look like suicide. She made it clear that she was not suicidal and if she was found dead it would be murder. > > Palfrey had threatened to release the names of well-known clients of her upscale call girl ring in the nation’s capitol, and had indicated that Dick Cheney may be one of them. > > “No I’m not planning to commit suicide,” Palfrey told The Alex Jones Show on her last appearance, “I’m planning on going into court and defending myself vigorously and exposing the government,” she said. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/4 "2008-05-01T20:43:33Z")
Any fan of the whodunnit knows that the mere presence of what _purports_ to be a suicide note is not conclusive evidence that she actually killed herself. I mean, c’mon, that’s _baby_ stuff, kindergarten stuff we all learned about the very first time we picked up an Agatha Christie or Erle Stanley Gardner. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/5 "2008-05-01T20:59:32Z")
Don’t be childish. If she could implicate Cheney, they would make it look like a hunting accident. Hey, it worked last time. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/6 "2008-05-01T21:03:12Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] If she could implicate Cheney, they would make it look like a hunting accident. [/QUOTE] Except that this was specific revenge to her leaking the fact that Dick Cheney is not well hung. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/7 "2008-05-01T21:05:03Z")
I’m sure her list of notable clients will be of even more interest now. It’s the perfect crime. Tell everybody that you’re going to “suicided”, then commit suicide. :dubious: Wow, between this and Baba Wawa revealing a years-long affair with Mass. Sen. Edmund Burke, Washington’s getting spicy again! ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/8 "2008-05-01T21:23:49Z")
[QUOTE=An Arky] …Washington’s getting spicy again! [/QUOTE] Don’t fall for it! They’re only trying to distract you from something important! [sub]_What_ “something important”? I don’t know! I was distracted![/sub] ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/9 "2008-05-01T21:37:11Z")
[QUOTE=An Arky] I’m sure her list of notable clients will be of even more interest now. It’s the perfect crime. Tell everybody that you’re going to “suicided”, then commit suicide. :dubious: Wow, between this and Baba Wawa revealing a years-long affair with Mass. Sen. Edmund Burke, Washington’s getting spicy again! [/QUOTE] A slight correction: the two-term senator was [Sen. Edward Brooke](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hD3wc2Wz4t3sdmX5Nr7_UI-6iw1QD90D1AVG0), who is not only African-American, but was a moderate Republican [in _Massachusetts_???]. I know Baba Wawa’s getting on in years, but she isn’t nearly old enough to have been with the 18th-C. political philosopher. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/10 "2008-05-01T22:34:25Z")
> [@](#): > > “No I’m not planning to commit suicide,” Palfrey told The Alex Jones Show on her last appearance, “I’m planning on going into court and defending myself vigorously and exposing the government,” she said. I don’t when she made that appearance, but she’s since been convicted and was about to be sentenced to what was expected to be several years in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/11 "2008-05-01T22:49:42Z")
[There’s an alternate quote,](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/04/15/ST2008041502159.html?hpid=topnews) from soneone who says he interviewed her for a possible biography. "[Dan]Moldea said that, in three interviews last spring and summer, after she was indicted, Palfrey told him: “I’m not going back to jail. I’ll kill myself first. I’ll commit suicide before I go back to jail.” She had apparently been jailed before and didn’t like it. Not that he can’t be part of the conspiracy, if you want to go that way. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/12 "2008-05-01T22:57:57Z")
I’m guessing Alex Jones didn’t ask Ms Palfrey if she was planning on committing suicide. Which would indicate that she raised the subject of suicide in her interview. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gentlemen-start-your-conspiracy-theories-dc-madam-apparently-dead/447659/13 "2008-05-01T23:55:00Z")
[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose] Any fan of the whodunnit knows that the mere presence of what _purports_ to be a suicide note is not conclusive evidence that she actually killed herself. [/QUOTE] Course not, she actually killed her long-lost twin sister, and made it look like suicide.