# Geographic Anomaly: Bit of Kentucky, other places **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 22, 2000, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817 "2000-12-22T04:23:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![rombuu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@rombuu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rombuu)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/61 "2002-11-25T08:59:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baker \* > \*\*There are actually two cities named Kansas City, as the urban area itself lies on the border between Kansa and Missouri. Part of the dividing line is a river, but in some places you walk across the street and you are in a different state. Back before the liquor laws were(somewhat) liberalized in Kansas the odd border proved convenient for my sister and her fellow Pharmacy students. After a hard day of classes in Kansas all you had to do to get a drink was to go across the street. \*\* The interesting thing is that KC Missouri was around for a while, and there was a separate city on the Kansas side of the state line. The people in this city on the Kansas side needed to raise some money, so they changed the name of their city to Kansas City and solicited a bond issue, that said "Invest in wonderful Kansas City… " and then in small letters at the bottom “Kansas”. The city was named Possom Trot prior to this. Pretty clever, eh? Still… its nice to be able to hop over the state line on Sundays and buy liquor. –rombuu (born and raised in KCK, but don’t tell anyone…) ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/62 "2002-11-25T16:33:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fanny May \* > \*\*The top part of Minnesota is only reachable from Canada, or going over the Lake of the North. \*\* That’s Lake of the Woods, BTW. Spiff ---
**Author:** ![Gravity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gravity/32/14322_2.png) [@Gravity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gravity)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/63 "2002-11-25T17:01:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gone The Sun \* > \*\*The Penisula in Lake Champlain Vermont is Alburg. It is pretty easily accessible, either from the Lake Champlain Islands, Route 78 from Highgate, Vermont, or from Rouse’s Point, NY … none of which requires going through Canada. \*\* Aw, you beat me to it. http://www.state.vt.us/vtmap/vtmp001.jpg]Here is a map of the area so you can see what it looks like. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/64 "2002-11-25T20:51:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dtilque \* > Bluefield VA/WV is interesting in its government. From what I understand, the two cities share their government. That is, there’s one city council and mayor for both cities. I suppose I should correct this. Someone on the net had told me the above factoid and I foolishly repeated it without verification. But after checking on the net, I found that it was not true. The two cities have separate city councils and mayors. BTW, like Kansas City KS, Bluefield VA also changed its name to match that of its neighbor across the border. Originally it was named Graham. Ditto for Bristol VA, which was originally named Goodson. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/65 "2002-11-25T21:53:15Z")
I have not read every post, but I don’t think anyone has mentioned the eastern shore of VA and MD that can be reached only by water or through DE (at least before the bridge/tunnel). That looks at least as odd as MI’s northern peninsula. Not only are there pieces of Swizerland inside Germany and maybe vice versa and a piece of Italy inside Swizerland (Campania d’Italia, IIRC), but inside Swizerland, there are Cantons that have enclaves or maybe exclaves, insider other Cantons. I think Fribourg (AKA Freiburg) has a number of enclaves inside Bern and maybe also Neuchatel. ---
**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/66 "2002-11-25T22:46:29Z")
The [Cooch Behar](http://home.no.net/enklaver/cooch_behar.htm) area along Bangladesh’s northern border with India has somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 enclaves. It is also home to the world’s only counter-counter enclave (an enclave within an enclave within an enclave). I played this game this summer when I visited Ontario and went to Manitoulin Island in Lake Huron. Lake Manitou, is inside Manitoulin Island, and is the world’s largest lake within a lake. It has islands too, presumably with at least mud puddles that have dry spots :eek: 😕 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/67 "2002-11-26T00:00:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ataraxy22 \* > The [Cooch Behar](http://home.no.net/enklaver/cooch_behar.htm) area along Bangladesh’s northern border with India has somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 enclaves. It is also home to the world’s only counter-counter enclave (an enclave within an enclave within an enclave). 106 Indian enclaves in Bangladesh and 92 Bangladeshi enclaves within India according to [Rolf Palmberg’s enclave page](http://vwww.abo.fi/users/rpalmber/enclaves.htm). However, he also says that there’s disagreement on the number in various references. > [@](#): > > I played this game this summer when I visited Ontario and went to Manitoulin Island in Lake Huron. Lake Manitou, is inside Manitoulin Island, and is the world’s largest lake within a lake. It has islands too, presumably with at least mud puddles that have dry spots :eek: 😕 😃 [Largest island in a lake on an island in a lake on an island](http://www.elbruz.org/islands/Islands%20and%20Lakes.htm) and similar curiosities. ---
**Author:** ![Yossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de0a6/32.png) [@Yossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yossarian)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/68 "2002-11-26T00:54:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > \*\*Dallas, TX has more than one ‘innurb’. Highland Park is one of them, I’m trying to find a good color-coded map of Dallas online so I can find the others… \*\* [Buckingham](http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/print/BB/hlbbg.html), completely surrounded by Richardson, was always my favorite DFW innurb. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/69 "2002-11-26T01:03:50Z")
Thanks Spiff, I was checking to see if someone had corrected Lake of the North, can’t believe it went uncorrected that long. Remember that this is Minnesota, which means the lake is frozen all but two weeks a year. We have highways going over the Lake and everything. I think there is even an interstate running across it. The Northwest Angle is generally attributed to either a surveyors error, or a poor understanding of the origin point of the Mississippi. ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/70 "2002-11-26T01:48:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gone The Sun \* > **Rouse’s Point, NY** Very close to where I live. Back to your regularly scheduled thread. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/71 "2002-11-26T02:10:00Z")
Wasn’t there a brief, though not altogether serious attempt by the residents of that part of Minnesota to cede that area to Canada? More of a protest thing, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/72 "2002-11-26T03:21:17Z")
Near Evansville, Indiana is a small piece of Kentucky, now north of the Ohio River. Before horserace betting was legal in Indiana, one could go to Ellis Park and play the ponies without crossing the river. When I was a student at the U. of Evansville, my date and I would drive down into the zone of is-it-really-Kentucky and steam up the windows. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817/73 "2002-11-26T06:37:49Z")
Back in the Cold War, when Berlin was divided into East Berlin and West Berlin … back then, West Berlin had about a dozen exclaves surrounded by East German territory. They were tiny spots, only a city block or so, and some as small as single buildings. How the heck did that ever happen? How did the East Germans agree to it? And how on earth did the outlying West Berliners get from there to West Berlin proper and back again? As for Cooch Behar and Bangladesh … that’s just surreal. 😕 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geographic-anomaly-bit-of-kentucky-other-places/46817.md?page=3)