# George Bush shut the fuck up! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 21, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162 "2005-02-21T13:18:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/161 "2005-02-27T02:18:51Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Serve the kiwis? When did I state that? > > Don’t change the subject. Do you believe that Bush has an obligation to only take care of those who voted for him? Whatever dude. I will support you in acknowledgeing that **calm kiwi** has a right to her opinion. It just that her opinion doesn’t particularly matter, least of all to the President. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/162 "2005-02-27T02:26:12Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > Whatever dude. I will support you in acknowledgeing that **calm kiwi** has a right to her opinion. It just that her opinion doesn’t particularly matter, least of all to the President. It seems like anyone that didn’t vote for him doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/163 "2005-02-27T02:31:50Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > It seems like anyone that didn’t vote for him doesn’t matter. That’s your claim, not mine. When did any POTUS take into consideration the ravings of an individual Kiwi to make a US policy decision? More importantly, why should he? ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/164 "2005-02-27T02:44:41Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > … Since his actions have global ramifications, of which affect the _entire_ US, a man of better character would attempt to act with the best interests of his country and its allies in mind. Only in the minds of you deranged antis is Bush _not_ acting in the best interests of his country. Those of us that voted for him feel that he is doing an admirable job of promoting the interests of us and our allies around the world. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/165 "2005-02-27T06:04:10Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > Only in the minds of you deranged antis is Bush _not_ acting in the best interests of his country. Those of us that voted for him feel that he is doing an admirable job of promoting the interests of us and our allies around the world. Not that it’s akin to breaking news around here, but you’re truly an exemplary bit of wasted oxygen. Other than Israel, find me _one_ so-called ally of yours whose citizens actually approve of The Little Emperor’s criminal endeavors. Down the sinkhole, that’s exactly where you’re headed with Bush’s America. I hear it’s a lonely trip. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/166 "2005-02-27T06:30:14Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > That’s your claim, not mine. When did any POTUS take into consideration the ravings of an individual Kiwi to make a US policy decision? More importantly, why should he? If it was the ranting of an individual kiwi (a stupid fucking term btw), I’d say you’re right. How about the ranting of half the US and a good deal of the world? ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/167 "2005-02-27T06:38:18Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > If it was the ranting of an individual kiwi (a stupid fucking term btw), I’d say you’re right. > > How about the ranting of half the US and a good deal of the world? The less than half of the US should get over it. There’s more elections in '06 and '08. Deal. A “good deal of the world” should get over it as well, as they have no legitimate say in the matter. ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/168 "2005-02-27T06:41:37Z")
So those of us that did not vote for him, those of us who agree with Gore that democracy is in danger, those of us who live elsewhere and are affected by his idiotic policies, have no right to complain? In your view, those who did not vote for him are disenfranchised, those who live elsewhere are not important. Sounds like B\*sh to me ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/169 "2005-02-27T06:48:44Z")
> [@UnwrittenNocturne](#): > > So those of us that did not vote for him, those of us who agree with Gore that democracy is in danger, those of us who live elsewhere and are affected by his idiotic policies, have no right to complain? > > In your view, those who did not vote for him are disenfranchised, those who live elsewhere are not important. Sounds like B\*sh to me How is democracy in danger? You voted in November, right? Did anyone hold a gun to your head, to vote, or not vote? Or to vote for, or against, any particular candidate? No? What’s your complaint, then. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/170 "2005-02-27T06:49:35Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > The less than half of the US should get over it. There’s more elections in '06 and '08. Deal. And will Bush’s destructive actions suddenly cease to exist in '06? Take a look at our sinking dollar, our skyrocketing deficit, and our plummeting goodwill around the world, and tell me it will go away in '06 [quuote]A “good deal of the world” should get over it as well, as they have no legitimate say in the matter. [/QUOTE] They have no say in the matter but live with the repercussions none the less. Just ask Spain. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/171 "2005-02-27T06:52:19Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > How is democracy in danger? You voted in November, right? Did anyone hold a gun to your head, to vote, or not vote? Or to vote for, or against, any particular candidate? No? What’s your complaint, then. The complaint is the Bush has a bigger influence then just the US, yet only the citizens of the US can vote for him. Exactly how dense are you? ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/172 "2005-02-27T06:56:09Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > They have no say in the matter but live with the repercussions none the less. Just ask Spain. You mean the ones who caved in to terrorism? NO, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/173 "2005-02-27T06:58:33Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > The complaint is the Bush has a bigger influence then just the US, yet only the citizens of the US can vote for him. > > Exactly how dense are you? I understand the complaint, dipshit, but I wonder why you would agree that it should be otherwise. The POTUS affects the world, so the “world” should get to vote for him? I think not. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/174 "2005-02-27T07:04:18Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > You mean the ones who caved in to terrorism? NO, thanks. There’s a thin line between “caving” into terrorism and saying “fuck this, this ain’t our problem, we’re out”. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/175 "2005-02-27T07:06:57Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > You mean the ones who caved in to terrorism? NO, thanks. Spain didn’t cave in to terrorism, they elected a government that wouldn’t cave in to the United States the way their previous government did. What tipped the scales was the way the incumbent attempted to use a terrorist attack to his political advantage by pinning it on a group that tended to support his opponent. Everybody knows that. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/176 "2005-02-27T07:07:16Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > There’s a thin line between “caving” into terrorism and saying “fuck this, this ain’t our problem, we’re out”. The terrorist attack arguably changed the election results in Spain. I’d call that “caving”, what would you call it? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/177 "2005-02-27T07:09:53Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > I understand the complaint, dipshit, but I wonder why you would agree that it should be otherwise. I don’t recall saying it should be otherwise. Feel free to point out where I did. > [@](#): > > The POTUS affects the world, so the “world” should get to vote for him? I think not. Silly me, I was just hoping we would get a president with enough character to be mindful of his sphere of influence. That way he understands when he twists a Spain’s arm into joining our pathetic coalition “of the willing” in order to give it legitimacy, that our problems no become theirs. Then, when they decide it’s to hot in the kitchen and pull out, we have people like you calling them a bunch of pussy cowards. I guess I just wish we had a pres, repub or dem, that wouldn’t put our allies in these fucked up no win situations. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/178 "2005-02-27T07:11:50Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > The terrorist attack arguably changed the election results in Spain. I’d call that “caving”, what would you call it? No it didn’t, not at all. The administrations _HANDLING_ of the attack (assigning blame to Basque seperatists) was what cost them the election. Go read up on it and then get back to me son. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/179 "2005-02-27T07:12:53Z")
My grammer is a bit off tonight due to beer, sue me. ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2005, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162/180 "2005-02-27T07:20:01Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > I understand the complaint, dipshit, but I wonder why you would agree that it should be otherwise. > > The POTUS affects the world, so the “world” should get to vote for him? I think not. You also seem to believe (in error) that half the US did vote for him. Try again. Half the world would rather he lay in a pine box. Simple as that. They see him as the biggest threat to peace the world has seen for years. Spain did NOT cave in to terrorists. It just refused to cave in to us. Maybe that in itself is a refusal to cave in to terrorists [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-bush-shut-the-fuck-up/291162.md?page=10)