# George Lopez rips ABC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 16, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346 "2007-05-16T17:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/1 "2007-05-16T17:57:00Z")
George Lopez didn’t take the cancellation of his show to well, ripping ABC when the announcement was made. > [@LA Times](#): > > Using colorful language that cannot be printed in a family newspaper, Lopez scoffed at another ABC pickup: “Caveman,” about two brothers and one best friend, described as sophisticated cave dudes living in modern-day Atlanta, who will continually find themselves at odds with contemporary society. > "I get kicked out for a … caveman and shows that I outperformed because I’m not owned by [ABC Television Studios]. So a Chicano can’t be on TV, but a caveman can? Lopez proved something with his show. That Hispanic people can make sitcoms as dreadfully unfunny and utterly unwatchable as the crappiest shows made by white people. He said TV just got “a lot, lot whiter” as if “white” is some sort of an insult and he is the only alternative. (As an aside Lopez has frequently joked that he loves golf because it gives him the chance to hit something white with a club). I see CBS has a new Hispanic-themed show on it’s schedule so Lopez’s comment seems ill-informed. And lashing out at ABC? The station that gave his lousy, unpopular show five years on the air? The station the airs Ugly Betty? What the? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/2 "2007-05-16T18:01:03Z")
Yes, that’s exactly it, George. Your shitty show was cancelled because of your ethnic heritage. Personally, I’m dismayed at Lopez’s racist assumption that cavemen can’t be Latino. I’m pretty sure that there were cave dwellers in Latin America back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/3 "2007-05-16T18:04:58Z")
He’s an idiot- if he wants to make it a racial issue, why not slam the 50 million Hispanics who didn’t watch his show every week. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/4 "2007-05-16T18:12:20Z")
He didn’t say his show got axed because it was ethnic, but he is arguing that it should’ve been kept around for that reason. Ultimately, even if his show had better ratings than some others ABC kept (his claim, not mine), it was still a long-term economic decision by ABC. If they don’t own the show, they can’t get the same kind of piece of the pie through syndication, etc. that’s possible to generate from something created internally. I’d be pissed, too, if I had to leave the air before Carlos Mencina, but them’s the breaks. ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/5 "2007-05-16T18:23:50Z")
I seem to recall Dennis Leary going on a rant a few years ago, when his show got axed to make room for Lopez. Ain’t nuthin’ new… ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/6 "2007-05-16T18:30:42Z")
> [@](#): > > So a Chicano can’t be on TV, but a caveman can? Lots of Chicanos can be on TV. Just not you. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/7 "2007-05-16T18:39:54Z")
Sounds like somebody got up on the wrong side of the…oh fuck it. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/8 "2007-05-16T18:52:26Z")
It’d be funny if ABC replaced him with the Carlos Mencia Show. The act of repalcing him would be funny, definitely not the show. And by George’s logic, he should be ok if that happened, since as long as there’s a Hisapnic show on, he’s happy right- it doesn’t have to be HIS show I assume from his argument. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/9 "2007-05-16T18:55:27Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] It’d be funny if ABC replaced him with the Carlos Mencia Show. The act of repalcing him would be funny, definitely not the show. And by George’s logic, he should be ok if that happened, since as long as there’s a Hisapnic show on, he’s happy right- it doesn’t have to be HIS show I assume from his argument. [/QUOTE] Then, hell, they should make it a threefer, by replacing it with an updated “I married Dora.” You’d get a Hispanic, a female, \*and \* piss off the Bush administration by featuring an illegal alien flouting the law. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/10 "2007-05-16T19:10:30Z")
Well, like the Washington Post pointed out, Lopez is wrong that “TV just got a lot, lot whiter”, because > [@](#): > > The fourth and final new drama slated by CBS is “Cane,” starring Jimmy Smits, formerly of “NYPD Blue,” “L.A. Law” and “The West Wing,” as the head of a powerful Cuban-American family in South Florida. So, yeah, George, there will still be Hispanics on network TV. Just not you. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/11 "2007-05-16T19:14:07Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] He didn’t say his show got axed because it was ethnic, but he is arguing that it should’ve been kept around for that reason. [/QUOTE] Wasn’t that The WB’s job, though? ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/12 "2007-05-16T19:40:07Z")
There is no WB anymore, and the CW largely abandoned the WB’s “diversity” programming model. Lopez’s wrath notwithstanding, the colors at stake weren’t white or brown but green. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/13 "2007-05-16T19:45:54Z")
It’s just dawning on me how crazy his statement is- he bemoans racism when used against him, but is OK with it if it is to his advantage? He’s a bigger dick than I thought. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/14 "2007-05-16T19:48:02Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] He’s a bigger dick than I thought. [/QUOTE] That’s because you were applying the wrong ethnic stereotype. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/15 "2007-05-16T22:37:02Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] There is no WB anymore, and the CW largely abandoned the WB’s “diversity” programming model. [/QUOTE] It looks like four of the CW’s current 12 prime time shows have majority-minority casts (Everybody Hates Chris, Girlfriends, All of Us and The Game) and a fifth show hosted by an African-American woman with a large percentage of ethnic minority participants (America’s Next Top Model). ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/16 "2007-05-17T02:17:10Z")
Did anyone on this board actually watch this show? And does it mean we are racists if we don’t? (As an aside, I teach at a heavily-Hispanic school. Not once have I ever heard one of my students mention Goerge Lopez or his show.) ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/17 "2007-05-17T02:28:03Z")
I watched abouvt five minutes of an episode- its the same as every other generic network sitcom- same dozen tired, rehashed sitcom plots, same telegraphed jokes- same shit, different ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/18 "2007-05-17T02:34:34Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] Did anyone on this board actually watch this show? And does it mean we are racists if we don’t? [/QUOTE] I watched maybe the first season and a half (in my defense, I’m obsessive when it comes to television and it is very hard for me to stop watching a show. I watched Jericho and I couldn’t be more thrilled that it got canceled. I hated it.). It is a remarkably unoriginal sitcom with cookie cutter characters. If you don’t watch it, it means you have taste. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/19 "2007-05-17T03:43:11Z")
I inadvertently watched a couple episodes. I think I had it on because I wanted to be sure I didn’t miss whatever was airing after it. Didn’t it used to be on before Lost? Anyway, having watched a couple episodes, given the choice between watching Lopez’ show and the cavemen show … I’ll take the cavemen. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346/20 "2007-05-17T10:45:55Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] Did anyone on this board actually watch this show? And does it mean we are racists if we don’t? (As an aside, I teach at a heavily-Hispanic school. Not once have I ever heard one of my students mention Goerge Lopez or his show.) [/QUOTE] I have seen it. I didn’t enjoy it. Like many of today’s sitcoms, many of the characters just seemed mean. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-lopez-rips-abc/404346.md?page=2)