# George Rekers' former organization: DADT repeal will lead to rampant raping **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 27, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998 "2010-05-27T21:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/21 "2010-05-28T02:43:02Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Germany has raped France numerous times. She wanted it. Look at how she was showing off her Alsace. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/22 "2010-05-28T02:47:15Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Did it never occur to anyone to check the military rape statistics of countries whose militaries allow openly-gay people to serve? Such as, I dunno, Argentina, Australia, Austia, Belgium, Bermuda, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, the Philippines, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, or Uruguay? [Link.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation_and_military_service) Why would they bother with actual facts? I don’t see how that would suit their purposes at all. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/23 "2010-05-28T02:57:09Z")
I just saw a guy on TV swear that gay soldiers will sneak up on sleeping GI’s and suck them off. I am not making this up. I couldn’t make this up. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/24 "2010-05-28T03:04:21Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Germany has raped France numerous times. And the Balkans a few times, but there they did use Greece! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/25 "2010-05-28T03:25:33Z")
Making the FRC look sane, we have American’s Survival Inc. claiming that repealing DADT will lead to our servicemembers being tainted with [disease-ridden gay blood](http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/1992414021.html). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/26 "2010-05-28T03:27:22Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > And the Balkans a few times, but there they did use Greece! 😛 I don’t know if Episcopalians have confession, **Poly** , but you better go… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/27 "2010-05-28T03:46:16Z")
Episcopalians don’t believe in Hell, just sort of an eternal Pledge Week. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/28 "2010-05-28T08:35:55Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Is rape of female soldiers that commonplace? From what I’ve heard, yes. I recall reading a news story a while back about American female soldiers in Iraq being told to be armed at all times and to travel in groups due to the high risk of rape by their fellow soldiers. And that some were suffering from dehydration do to avoiding the water supplies, because that was a favored place for rapists to lie in wait. In general from everything I’ve read over the years sexual assault of various degrees by American male soldiers on female soldiers is pretty common. I can’t recall ever hearing of homosexual assaults though. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/29 "2010-05-28T11:23:42Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I just saw a guy on TV swear that gay soldiers will sneak up on sleeping GI’s and suck them off. I am not making this up. I couldn’t make this up. Was the guy [Eric Massa](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/03/eric-massas-navy-files/37309/)? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/30 "2010-05-28T13:32:53Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Argentina, Australia, Austia, Belgium, Bermuda, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, the Philippines, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, or Uruguay? Dude! I love Johnny Cash! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/31 "2010-05-28T13:39:41Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > Making the FRC look sane, we have American’s Survival Inc. claiming that repealing DADT will lead to our servicemembers being tainted with [disease-ridden gay blood](http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/1992414021.html). Gotta love this logic: > [@](#): > > As the vote in Congress draws near, Kincaid predicted that the pro-homosexual liberal media will deliberately ignore the fact that a decision to repeal the policy would mean that gay soldiers could be put in the position of donating infected blood to other soldiers in desperate need of blood transfusions. Of course, _not_ repealing the policy means that gay soldiers are mostly in the closet and might be… expected to donate blood to other soldiers. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/32 "2010-05-28T13:48:20Z")
Note to Whackjobs: THE GAYS ARE ALREADY _IN_ THE MILITARY! This just lets them be open about thier sexuality. So if it isn’t happening now it won’t be after either. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/33 "2010-05-28T13:55:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Of course, _not_ repealing the policy means that gay soldiers are mostly in the closet and might be… expected to donate blood to other soldiers. Yes, but being gay doesn’t give you AIDS. Being _openly_ gay gives you AIDS. Duh! ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/34 "2010-05-28T14:03:25Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Note to Whackjobs: THE GAYS ARE ALREADY _IN_ THE MILITARY! This just lets them be open about thier sexuality. So if it isn’t happening now it won’t be after either. Of course they are. If they weren’t I wouldn’t have all these DVDs showing scenes of where the soldiers are drinking beers and then one thing leads to another and suddenly they’re all having sex with each other, would I? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/35 "2010-05-28T14:45:52Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I just saw a guy on TV swear that gay soldiers will sneak up on sleeping GI’s and suck them off. I am not making this up. I couldn’t make this up. If you follow the link to the “study” cited in the OP’s article, it says just that. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/36 "2010-05-28T14:56:42Z")
> [@Illuminatiprimus](#): > > Of course they are. If they weren’t I wouldn’t have all these DVDs showing scenes of where the soldiers are drinking beers and then one thing leads to another and suddenly they’re all having sex with each other, would I? I think I’ve seen that movie, except it was sororities and women. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/37 "2010-05-28T15:04:04Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > If I could derail a Pit thread with an actual thought for a second, I would speculate that, in fact, that same sex sexual assault in the military is more prevelant than opposite sex sexual assault. The reason is simply that there are many, many more males to victimize than females, and that “rape”, especially male on male, has little to nothing to do with actual sexual preference. Reading further in the article this seems basically right. The classes of things that he was calling rape, would seem to be more along the lines of fratboy pranks (teabagging and the like). Definately things that should be discouraged, but not indications of any homosexual orientation. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/38 "2010-05-28T15:16:40Z")
I once saw a handheld video of a group of soldiers gathered around the bunk of a sleeping troopmate, who was sporting an erection. The were, in all honesty, videotaping themselves poking it to see if it moved, and giggling. DADT or not, I’m pretty sure that when you gather beer and young men en mass, something will happen to the first sleeping man, and it will involve someone’s genitals. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/39 "2010-05-28T15:20:46Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > From what I’ve heard, yes. I recall reading a news story a while back about American female soldiers in Iraq being told to be armed at all times and to travel in groups due to the high risk of rape by their fellow soldiers. And that some were suffering from dehydration do to avoiding the water supplies, because that was a favored place for rapists to lie in wait. In general from everything I’ve read over the years sexual assault of various degrees by American male soldiers on female soldiers is pretty common. > > I can’t recall ever hearing of homosexual assaults though. I have often thought that the reason some heterosexual service men are against openly gay service men among their ranks is they are afraid gay service men will treat them the way they have treated their female comrades. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998/40 "2010-05-28T15:27:45Z")
This story comes complete with a meaningless comment by Retired Colonel **Dick Black**. Are we sure this isn’t like a viral web ad for _Army Boys Gone Wild_ or something? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-rekers-former-organization-dadt-repeal-will-lead-to-rampant-raping/540998.md?page=3)