# George Soros predicts depression, police state, class war in **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 24, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555 "2012-01-24T23:29:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555/41 "2012-01-29T20:18:44Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Apologies, but just to clarify: the accusation is that he directly supports a group who indirectly supports a group that promotes a group who promote an organisation that supports the Occupy movement? > > I just want to make sure I’m at the right level of degrees of kevin bacon here. Is it a 4 or a 5? not quite, he directly supports a group that directly supports an anarchist organization. This is a quote directly from adbusters regarding occupation of the next G8 summit in Chicago: And if they don’t listen … if they ignore us and put our demands on the back burner like they’ve done so many times before … then, with Gandhian ferocity, we’ll flashmob the streets, shut down stock exchanges, campuses, corporate headquarters and cities across the globe … we’ll make the price of doing business as usual too much to bear. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555/42 "2012-01-29T20:19:40Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Apologies, but just to clarify: the accusation is that he directly supports a group who indirectly supports a group that promotes a group who promote an organisation that supports the Occupy movement? > > I just want to make sure I’m at the right level of degrees of kevin bacon here. Is it a 4 or a 5? Thank you so much for this post. Bravo. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555/43 "2012-01-29T20:27:34Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > That definition would actually suggest that every public rally is tantamount to anarchy. They all occupy public space, after all. Shutting down businesses, campuses and cities sounds like anarchy to me. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555/44 "2012-01-29T20:44:21Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Shutting down businesses, campuses and cities sounds like anarchy to me. So any large public gathering, whether a protest or a marathon, that impacts upon routine business/university hours would qualify as anarchy in your book? ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555/45 "2012-01-29T20:47:34Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Thank you so much for this post. Bravo. what, I don’t get a thanks for correcting it? Soros directly supports a group that directly supports anarchists. The fact that he specifies his money not go to the anarchists just means he frees up other donations that aren’t specified. his predictions are right in line with organizations he associates himself with, even if it’s on a secondary level. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555/46 "2012-01-29T20:51:56Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > not quite, he directly supports a group that directly supports an anarchist organization. > > This is a quote directly from adbusters regarding occupation of the next G8 summit in Chicago: > > And if they don’t listen … if they ignore us and put our demands on the back burner like they’ve done so many times before … then, with Gandhian ferocity, we’ll flashmob the streets, shut down stock exchanges, campuses, corporate headquarters and cities across the globe … we’ll make the price of doing business as usual too much to bear. I am glad you have proven that adbusters supports the Occupy movement. Now, can you please outline the connection from Soros to adbusters? Because a lot of people seem quite happy to declare that there’s no such connection: [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/14/us-wallstreet-protests-funding-idUSTRE79D01Q20111014](http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/14/us-wallstreet-protests-funding-idUSTRE79D01Q20111014) > [@](#): > > According to IRS disclosure documents from 2007-2009, the latest data available, Soros’ Open Society gave grants of $3.5 million to Tides, a San Francisco-based group that acts almost like a clearing house for other donors, directing their contributions to liberal non-profit groups. Among others the Tides Center has partnered with are the Ford Foundation and the Gates Foundation. > > IRS disclosure documents and reports from Tides also show that Tides gave Adbusters grants of $185,000 from 2001-2010, including nearly $26,000 between 2007-2009. > > The Vancouver-based Adbusters publishes a magazine with a circulation of 120,000 and is known for its spoofs of popular advertisements. It says it wants to “change the way corporations wield power” and its goal is “to topple existing power structures.” > > Adbusters co-founder Kalle Lasn said the group is 95 percent funded by subscribers paying for the magazine. > > “George Soros’s ideas are quite good, many of them. I wish he would give Adbusters some money, we sorely need it,” he said. “He’s never given us a penny.” ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555/47 "2012-01-29T21:17:07Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > I am glad you have proven that adbusters supports the Occupy movement. I explained it quite clearly in the very first post. Adbusters is funded in part by the Tide Center. It’s right there in your own cite. The Tide Center is funded in part by Soros. It would be no different than if the Tide Center funded the KKK. Soros would still be backing a company that funnels money to them whether he specifically dictated his money go to some other group. His targeted donations simply represent a juggling of the money donated by other people who do not specify where it goes within the Tide organization. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555/48 "2012-01-29T21:21:22Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > So any large public gathering, whether a protest or a marathon, that impacts upon routine business/university hours would qualify as anarchy in your book? Yes, stopping other people from earning a living or getting an education is anarchy. It’s nice that you throw in the word “protest” like some kind of moral qualifier but millions of us protest everyday without harming other people. Anarchists don’t seem to be able to accomplish this most simple of tasks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-soros-predicts-depression-police-state-class-war-in/610555.md?page=2)