# George Through the Looking-Glass

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-through-the-looking-glass/405776>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 28, 2007, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-through-the-looking-glass/405776 "2007-05-28T13:04:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-through-the-looking-glass/405776/21 "2007-05-30T20:32:26Z")

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Why separate? Do they have some sort of Power Ranger/Mecha-Shiva trick that allows them to put their crystals together and emerge as the ultimate fighting Robot? 'Cause if they do, I agree, that would be a good reason for keeping them apart.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-through-the-looking-glass/405776/22 "2007-05-30T20:37:17Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
Why separate?  
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Because we don’t believe in the death penalty, and you would **not** want to be locked in with Cheney if the guard is ever late with his blood.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-through-the-looking-glass/405776/23 "2007-05-31T22:20:47Z")

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I hope this doesn’t seem like a hijack –

For quite a few years I had ambivalent feelings about President Ford pardoning Nixon. I think he thought he was doing the right thing for the country. Maybe, at the time, people thought that the kind of illegal, power-grabbing hijinks that happened in the Nixon administration were an aberration, and that the process of pressing criminal charges against a former president, trying him in criminal court, possibly sending him to prison, would be too great an ordeal for the country.

Now, after Iran-Contra in the 1980’s, and the giant ungodly pit of lies and craziness we’ve been witnessing for the past several years, I can’t help but think that it would have been worth it, just to drive home the idea of holding our leaders accountable. Maybe we wouldn’t have had to suffer some of this shit.

So, no, I don’t have fantasies about hooking Bush’s nuts up to a car battery – just about treating him like the criminal he is (with all the due process he’s denied to others).

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2007, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-through-the-looking-glass/405776/24 "2007-06-01T14:45:32Z")

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[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]

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> John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?

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27 percent of the _voters_ doesn’t map to 27 percent of the entire population. You have to take into account those who are ineligible to vote (the majority of whom are probably not batshit insane) and those who are eligible but chose not to (who are arguably more sane than those who voted for Keyes).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-through-the-looking-glass/405776/25 "2007-06-02T22:40:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
I hope this doesn’t seem like a hijack –

For quite a few years I had ambivalent feelings about President Ford pardoning Nixon. I think he thought he was doing the right thing for the country. Maybe, at the time, people thought that the kind of illegal, power-grabbing hijinks that happened in the Nixon administration were an aberration, and that the process of pressing criminal charges against a former president, trying him in criminal court, possibly sending him to prison, would be too great an ordeal for the country.

Now, after Iran-Contra in the 1980’s, and the giant ungodly pit of lies and craziness we’ve been witnessing for the past several years, I can’t help but think that it would have been worth it, just to drive home the idea of holding our leaders accountable. Maybe we wouldn’t have had to suffer some of this shit.

So, no, I don’t have fantasies about hooking Bush’s nuts up to a car battery – just about treating him like the criminal he is (with all the due process he’s denied to others).  
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Subhijack: Based on cites in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=401762) thread, it appears Nixon tapped Ford precisely because they were old and close friends (much more so than seems to have been generally known at the time) and he could count on a pardon from him.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-through-the-looking-glass/405776/26 "2007-06-06T22:20:11Z")

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[QUOTE=David Simmons]  
And a majority of Republicans still support him and what he is doing. His approval rating is near 30%. Given that GOP voters comprise no more than about 50% of total voters, 3 in 5 of them support Bush. I suspect the supporting GOP percentage is higher than that because there is a fair percentage of independent voters and so the total percentage of GOP voters is probably more like 40% of total voters. That would mean that 3 in 4 support GW.

Gives you pause, doesn’t it? Or at least it does me.  
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Mr. Holmes, you’re spot on! According to the most recent [Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/06/AR2007060601484.html?nav=rss_politics) poll, 74% of Republicans still approve of Bush.

Hey, if the Rapture came with the whole earth cleansing by fire blahblahblah, would Bush’s poll numbers go up or down?

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