George W. Bush now has a mandate and nothing to loose, What's going to happen.

I think this in the next four years…

International First:
OBL won’t be caught, or if he is he will be executed immediately by whoever catches him (likely Pakistani troops, as our leaders don’t seem to give much of a damn) to prevent him from talking.

Saddam will be tried and executed by an Iraqi court, and become a martyr to the Fundamentalist Cause. (I do love irony, sometimes).

Iraq will continue to be a quagmire, with more and more soliders dying every day. We will gradually phase out our involvement there until around 2007, when the next Republican candidate (Jeb?) is running for President, after which we will ramp up again. Elections will happen in Iraq, but will be a farce as the most popular candidates will be religious extremists whom the US won’t allow to take power.

Our allies, especially the UK, will think long and hard before following us anywhere anymore, and NATO will be effectively destroyed since most of the NATO signatories wouldn’t follow us into a puddle.

Iran will attempt to gain nuclear weapons, and the US will launch some sort of airborne attack against that site. This will come very close to, but narrowly avoid, becoming a war which will only be averted at the last minute by intervention by the UN.

In the US:
There will be a large attack in the US from foreign terrorists connected with Al-Qaeda. It will likely involve a seaport and a large ‘dirty’ bomb, and render that seaport uninhabitable and unusable for quite a long time and do significant economic damage to the area, but result in few outright casualties. The perpetrators of this bombing will be either Iraqi or Saudi in origin, with support from Indonesia and the Phillipines and Islamic fundamentalists in the US. All seaports are wide open to exactly this sort of attack due to this Administration choosing to spend billions on the war in Iraq and not to fund basic seaport security measures proposed by Congress. The Administration will use this as an excuse to gut more civil liberties and spend more money on a useless Missile Shield to protect the US at the cost of allies such as England and Japan from an enemy that doesn’t use missiles.

There not be a draft. Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Reserve units will be activated into full-time active duty units, and all current military personnel in both active duty and reserve formations will be subject to stop-loss orders. The inactive reserve will be called up and put into active duty as well.

The deficit will continue to escalate, but not as dramatically as in the first four years if the Republican Congress makes any effort to live up to anything like fiscal conservatism. Other areas of fiscal mismanagement and scandal amongst the Republican Party will cause a backlash against them, and the Democratic Party will attempt to re-create itself as the party of real values and real benefit to the people and likely succeed. The Democratic party will also make overtures to divest itself of the lunatic fringe it has long tried to include. War profiteering scandals will come to light, including Halliburton, and will result in further lost confidence in the Repulican leadership and massive backlash against them.

Gay Marriage amentment will be proposed but not pass. It’s not like the mandate for Bush and Co is strong enough for that, and without coattails to ride on most Congressmen will hesitate to propose something so fundamental as a Constitutional Amendment banning anything.

The environment will take a terrible beating, and many more environmental protection laws will be either gutted or overturned to better provide a sop to heavy industry.

Offshoring wherever possible will become the norm for big businesses, and many more jobs will be lost. The IT and telecomms sector will be particularly hard hit, with many US jobs going overseas to India and China. A further 2 million jobs will be lost, or be recreated in the service industry.

Bush will nominate highly conservative Judges to the SCOTUS, who will not be approved due to the narrow margin of support from the popular mandate of the President. Instead, slightly conservative Justices will be approved instead. Roe v. Wade stays the same, but parental approval is required before abortions, Federal aid money is barred for any nation, state, or program allowing abortion.

Anti-obscenity and family values laws will be passed in record numbers throughout the Red States, later to be overturned by the SCOTUS for Unconstitutionality. But a lot of people will spend time in jail as a result of them. Anti-sodomy laws will come back in many Red states, but again, lots of people will spend time in jail to fight these type of laws.

There will be the same mismangement under Bush’s Executive for the next four years as in the first four, and with the addition of a rubber-stamp Congress for most things, many bad, unenforceable, and objectionable laws (Patriot 3, anyone?) will be passed. This will further alienate the 49% of the populace who didn’t vote for him, and will potentially move many centrists left in response.

The Democrats will win as big in 2008 and 2010 as the Republicans did in 2004, due to backlash for poor management and poor leadership. 2006 will be somewhere in the middle, with limited change.

I also think this for four years - thank God I won’t have to live through as much of it, as I plan on living in England for at least 3 more years, then move to Australia.

Interesting idea. Who of us is going to be around in 4 years though to revive it? :slight_smile:

Still, I’ll bite…though my predictive powers are certainly in question after my predictions of the recent election.

While I don’t think GW has a ‘mandate’ from the people to do whatever he thinks he should, I conceed he is certainly and clearly in the drivers seat. He won by a fairly large margin in both the EC and the popular vote. In addition the Republicans clearly control both houses. GW SHOULD be able to do pretty much what he wants without much heavy opposition. The thing is…will he?

No, there won’t be a draft. That was a Democrat scare tactic (ya, they use them too…stunning to folks on this board I’m sure). I DO think that Bush will back down on his resistance to increase the military though. I know the Army has a new model they want to push through (lighter more mobile forces), but I think circumstances are going to dictate that we increase the Army at least…probably by the 2 divisions Kerry was advocating.

I think that things in the ME will essentially be what they are today (sans the current high level rebellion in Iraq) in 4 years. I seriously doubt that the ME is currently very fertile for the ‘seeds of democracy’…my hope is that the two nations we’ve attacked gain a stable and at least quasi-Democratic governments in the next 4 years. I think the seeds of hate against the US (as another poster put it…I’m to lazy to scroll back to figure out who said it atm) were ALWAYS there, and I don’t really think this is anything new…its just more out in the open now, not radically changed. There was ALWAYS a percentage of folks over there that actively hated the US, disliked the US, distrusted the US, etc…and I’ve seen nothing to indicate that this percentage has gone up radically…merely polorized the people there.

Well, I think its entirely possible the terrorists will at least attempt another raid directely into the US. Whether we catch them or not is a function of our intellegence organs…and luck. I think that the fighting in Iraq will certainly distract AQ and other terrorist groups from mounting anything serious against the US for the forseeable future at least. Terror attacks abroad though will continue.

I don’t think so. At least not in any huge amounts. My guess is that WMD, if they were ever there (since the early 90’s when I think the majority were disposed), are long gone now.

I think its entirely possibly ObL will be DEAD in 4 years…I’d give even money on that.

Unlikely in 4 years…if ever. I think even if it all works out resentment of the US will be a going concern and a booming business for the forseeable future.

This is probably the compromise that will eventually be worked out, yes. Eventually gay marriage will happen…but not for a long time in the US.

Unsure. This is one of those things Bush COULD seriously impact with his ‘mandate’…but will he? I hope so. Reguardless those currently getting their checks or shortly to receive them will continue to do so for the time being until something is worked out…or nothing is worked out. Again, this was Democrat scare mongering IMO…little is likely to change to the system in the next 4 years reguardless of what Bush does. His impact, if any, will be felt in the next DECADE as far as social security goes.

Well, I’m not sure about that…but I do think the economy will recover and eventually boom. Would have done the same under Kerry, so I dont know how much you can attribute to Bush. I’ll keep getting back hefty tax cuts though. :slight_smile:

You didn’t mention it, but Bush is also proposing reforms in the tax code. My prediction is we’ll get SOME kind of cosmetic reforms, but nothing radical like a combination VAT/Flat tax or the elimination of the IRS for more localized agencies. Unfortunate, because Bush really COULD push through major reform…but I don’t think he will.

Doubtful. I see this issue like a pendulum. It swings one way, it swings back the other. I also doubt that people who give aid and comfort to the enemy will be considered presidential candidate material to either of the main stream parties. War protester is a different kettle of fish though, and if the war continues to go bad in Iraq or gets worse, I can definitely see a Dean type candidate as the nominee for the Dems next time.

My own grimmer predictions:

Though Iraq will eventually settle down, it will have come at the cost of hundreds of billions of dollars to the US and won’t have been worth it. Other nations will still covertly support terrorism and the US will have shot its bolt in Iraq, unable to do anything substantial in nations like Iran, Syria, or North Korea. The nation will continue to be bitterly divided for the next 4 years and even further. It will be decades before we fully recover from all this…if ever.

The Dems will have learned nothing from this election and try the same old tired tactics and the same old tired planks. The Republicans will have gotten the wrong message from the vote also, and will squander this chance for real fiscal change by focusing on bread and circus issues like abortion instead of radical tax reform or reforming social security and other social oriented programs to make they more efficient and work better. The next election will be just as bitter and hateful, and my guy (who ever the Libs nominate next time) will still not get more than 1% of the vote.

The SDMB will continue to be a fun place to post, but will still be full of wild left wing ravings about stolen elections…and the ocational wild right wing raving as counter point. I still won’t be able to retire to a beach somewhere drawing 10% and living life as I deserve. :slight_smile:

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Depends on whether or not we can get the Republicans to take their blindfolds off and the cotton out of their ears and face reality. How many folks still believe Saddam had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks?

And you can find Bush’s mandate right here.

Any ideas as to how many folks who voted for Kerry thought there would be a new draft, or that social security would be completely privatized cutting off checks to people currently drawing it, or that abortion would (will) be completely outlawed, or that the weapons ban allowed to lapse under Bush dealt with AUTOMATIC weapons that will now become legal…or any number of other mischaracterized issues on the other side of the fence? Funny that no studies have been done (that I’ve seen posted on this board anyway) dealing with all the misinformation and misinformed people who voted on Kerry’s side. Of course, what one man’s ‘misinformation’ is another man’s cherished belief…and vice versa. Ehe rjung?

The response I’ve heard explaining this is ‘well, these things still COULD happen!’…and thats true. But then again, WMD COULD still be found. I rate the odds about equal on both sides of those things happening.

-XT

Draft? No. But a continuing backdoor draft will make the military less supportive of Bush.

Social Security? As soon as someone realizes that privatizing it would mean the people collecting social security today wouldn’t, it’ll be dead. It’s the term-limits issue of the aughts. The ‘no more homework’ pledge of the short attention spanned.

Deficit? It’ll be outrageous. Supply-side doesn’t increase the tax base. It just doesn’t. W’s discretionary spending first term was higher than Clinton’s, and it’ll stay high. The numbers don’t add up, and we’re fiscally boned for a long, long time.

Civil liberties? About where they are now. Not worse, but not better, which is too bad.

WMD in Iraq? No.

I’ll be back in four years.

We shall all be forced to wear our underwear on the OUTSIDE of our clothing.

Remember, you heard it here first!

Thank goodness! I was so tired of being called un-American and a traitor every time I questioned the government that I finally shut up. It’s going to be great to be able to speak my mind again without all that group think.

Mandates have limits but one’s view of the mandate doesn’t.

People who are given a blank check often write it for more than is in the account.

Yes, and I can’t wait for PC speech to go away so I can go back to calling people by my favorite terms of endearment, like “Cripple Boy”, “Towel headed camel jockey”, or “Fatty fatty two by four”. Don’t get me started on calling a spade a spade.

(I was not sure what type face or smiley is typically used to denote sarcasm. But please assume it was used in the above paragraph. For the sarcasm impaired my point is that what people deride as “PC” is in fact usually just common courtesy, something the right claims to have a monopoly on. The difference is that the right only feels the need to be courteous to their own class, and PC means being courteous to everyone.)

I was piling on Eyer 8’s bandwagon, not speaking against Eyer 8, if that was not clear.