# George Zimmerman - In the news again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480 "2014-07-31T13:26:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/441 "2014-08-22T22:28:37Z")

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I’m not wearing pants! :eek:

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/442 "2014-08-22T22:36:21Z")

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Go get some.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/443 "2014-08-22T23:10:49Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> You could just make up your own answer if you don’t approve of my wanting the media, and prosecutors, to present the facts.

I thought that was why you were bringing up the distinction of what kind of drink TM had. I’ve heard that skittles and flavored fruit drink are both ingredients of the previous mentioned “drank”.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2014, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/444 "2014-08-23T05:01:41Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> the ice tea lie

Band name!

(It even has that poignant social back-story with the “just right” awkward strangeness thing to it.)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/445 "2015-01-10T14:15:23Z")

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Arrested again!

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> The Seminole County Sheriff’s Office says the 31-year-old Zimmerman was arrested in Lake Mary about 10 p.m. Friday and is being held at the John E. Polk Correctional Facility. The facility’s website says Zimmerman is scheduled for a court appearance at 9 a.m. Saturday.

]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_GEORGE\_ZIMMERMAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-01-10-08-39-17](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GEORGE_ZIMMERMAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-01-10-08-39-17))

Not much info in the story, but I expect more shortly as his court appearance is roughly ‘right now’.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/446 "2015-01-10T14:39:43Z")

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Damn this liberal court system! It constantly lets these repeat offenders off with just a slap on the wrist.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/447 "2015-01-10T15:21:09Z")

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According to the Orlando Sentinel:

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> George Zimmerman was arrested and charged with domestic aggravated assault with a weapon in Lake Mary Friday night, a Seminole County Sheriff’s spokeswoman said.

The weapon wasn’t a gun but nevertheless, Zimmerman was ordered to surrender his weapons.

It sounds serious, yet his bail is only 5k.

No word yet on the doorhinge stuck between his ass cheeks.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/448 "2015-01-10T15:31:54Z")

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Florida must have a whole lot of dumb, desperate women.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/449 "2015-01-10T15:41:52Z")

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He’s just not going to get it, until he’s dead. I hope it’s before he kills any more people.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/450 "2015-01-10T15:51:14Z")

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If there was a cop willing to put this career criminal in a chokehold, I wouldn’t post about him in that omnibus thread, just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/451 "2015-01-10T15:54:31Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> If there was a cop willing to put this career criminal in a chokehold, I wouldn’t post about him in that omnibus thread, just sayin’.

Hypocrite. So, you support the police killing innocent people if you happen to dislike the legal actions they’ve taken in the past?

Fucking disgusting.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/452 "2015-01-10T16:12:07Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Hypocrite. So, you support the police killing innocent people if you happen to dislike the legal actions they’ve taken in the past?
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> Fucking disgusting.

So are you saying the cops did, in fact, kill Garner with their unlawful chokehold? I’ve been led to believe that Garner did himself in by resisting arrest while being big and fat, and the cops were not culpable in any way. But now you’ve given me something to think about here.

By gollee, maybe it _is_ wrong to use prohibited restraint techniques known to cause death and serious injury, regardless of a person’s criminal background. And maybe we _should_ prosecute cops to the fullest extent possible when they kill non-aggressive people using those techniques. And when that prosecution doesn’t happen, we _should_ be concerned and outraged.

Thanks for opening my eyes on this, **Steophan**!

I still will not post a complaint in that omnibus thread if a cop so chooses to treat Zimmerman in this manner. His karmic debt is much larger than that.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/453 "2015-01-10T16:13:20Z")

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Floridians, please know that if you see George Zimmerman charging at you, you have the right to stand your ground.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/454 "2015-01-10T16:20:06Z")

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The poor guy just can’t catch a break.

I see one member of his defense team is already reporting for duty - I wonder if the rest are up for another round.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/455 "2015-01-10T16:21:10Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> So are you saying the cops did, in fact, kill Garner with their unlawful chokehold? I’ve been led to believe that Garner did himself in by resisting arrest while being big and fat, and the cops were not culpable in any way. But now you’ve given me something to think about here.
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> By gollee, maybe it _is_ wrong to use prohibited restraint techniques known to cause death and serious injury, regardless of a person’s criminal background. And maybe we _should_ prosecute cops to the fullest extent possible when they kill non-aggressive people using those techniques. And when that prosecution doesn’t happen, we _should_ be concerned and outraged.
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> Thanks for opening my eyes on this, **Steophan**!
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> I still will not post a complaint in that omnibus thread if a cop so chooses to treat Zimmerman in this manner. His karmic debt is much larger than that.

No, you fucking idiot, it is not wrong to restrain a suspect who’s resisting arrest. It is wrong to do so to someone who was found not guilty of a crime, a verdict that you inexplicably disagree with.

Now, if Zimmerman does the same, and is killed, then that would be fair enough. But that’s not what you said, you said you don’t care if he’s unfairly killed, and there’s no reason to feel like that. Unless you can show me proof that he’s done anything wrong, rather than a politically motivated show trial.

Karmically, Zimmerman is owed a great deal for what he was put through, at the urging of utter fucking arseholes like you, after being the victim of a serious assault.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/456 "2015-01-10T16:25:23Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> I see one member of his defense team is already reporting for duty - I wonder if the rest are up for another round.

Yeah I’ll fucking defend innocent people from threats to kill them. That’s why I strongly support the right to self defence, and the right of the police to use force to arrest those resisting them. _Those_, the people who are being attacked and the police that protect them, are the people who need support, not the scum who think they have the right to attack people, steal shit, and generally break laws and make everybody’s life that little bit worse.

I’m sure there are cops out there doing a bad job, attacking people without reason, stealing, or whatever, but this board has done a fucking terrible job of identifying them, instead focussing on cops who do their job dealing with the scum.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/457 "2015-01-10T16:26:30Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Karmically, Zimmerman is owed a great deal for what he was put through, at the urging of utter fucking arseholes like you, after being the victim of a serious assault.

What was Zimmerman put through (after the trial) that was not justly deserved?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/458 "2015-01-10T16:27:44Z")

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On a more serious note, here’s what I found to be a pretty compelling analysis of Zimmerman’s relationship with the authorities that people like **Steophan** think are unfairly persecuting him:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/rSB9VJcwQsc/maxresdefault.jpg "The Last Samurai (1/4) Movie CLIP - Never Say Die (2003) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSB9VJcwQsc)

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/459 "2015-01-10T16:33:04Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> What was Zimmerman put through (after the trial) that was not justly deserved?

The trial is what I was referring to. It should never have happened.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/460 "2015-01-10T16:36:55Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> No, you fucking idiot, it is not wrong to restrain a suspect who’s resisting arrest. It is wrong to do so to someone who was found not guilty of a crime, a verdict that you inexplicably disagree with.

Are you paying attention? He was just arrested for a different crime. He’s officially crossed into career criminal status. Your defense of him at this point is odd (but not surprising), given your history of condemning people who routinely get in trouble with the law.

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