# George Zimmerman - In the news again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 31, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480 "2014-07-31T13:26:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/461 "2015-01-10T16:47:52Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Are you paying attention? He was just arrested for a different crime. He’s officially crossed into career criminal status. Your defense of him at this point is odd (but not surprising), given your history of condemning people who routinely get in trouble with the law. Career criminal? How many crimes has he been convicted of? Not that that’s relevant to wanting him killed by the police, like everyone else I’d prefer no-one was killed by the police… Sadly, people continue to resist them. You want him killed due to his being the victim of an assault, and defending himself. Don’t try and claim I’m the one doing anything wrong. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/462 "2015-01-10T16:54:16Z")
Poor, misunderstood George Zimmerman. An upstanding member of his community, and a hero for True Americans. Why must you nasty Libs shine a light on him so? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/463 "2015-01-10T16:54:18Z")
Zimmerman, accused of initiating the incident in which he shot an unarmed Trayvon Martin, now faced with a number of run-in’s with the law, exemplifying his self-centeredness, contempt for the law and his disposition toward violence mean absolutely nothing. And yet a picture of a menacing looking Trayvon Martin on Facebook was practically proof enough that he was naught but a thug. Odd that. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/464 "2015-01-10T17:01:38Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > You want him killed due to his being the victim of an assault, and defending himself. It is insane at this point to insist he’s a victim of anything, and it equally obvious that this is what you have to insist to sleep well at night. So carry on. We feel sorry for you. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/465 "2015-01-10T17:08:38Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Career criminal? How many crimes has he been convicted of? Not that that’s relevant to wanting him killed by the police, like everyone else I’d prefer no-one was killed by the police… Sadly, people continue to resist them. > > You want him killed due to his being the victim of an assault, and defending himself. Don’t try and claim I’m the one doing anything wrong. Trayvon Martin hadn’t been accused of a single crime either. That didn’t stop you and others from asserting he deserved to be killed. And just to throw this out because I will never tire of calling George Zimmerman out for the POS he is: [George Zimmerman’s racist best friend thinks George is a racist who targeted Trayvon after all](http://gawker.com/george-zimmermans-best-racist-friend-now-says-he-was-gu-1575068202) Yeah, I couldn’t believe it either. But I can’t find any indication that this has been debunked. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/466 "2015-01-10T17:48:36Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Trayvon Martin hadn’t been accused of a single crime either. That didn’t stop you and others from asserting he deserved to be killed. > > And just to throw this out because I will never tire of calling George Zimmerman out for the POS he is: [George Zimmerman’s racist best friend thinks George is a racist who targeted Trayvon after all](http://gawker.com/george-zimmermans-best-racist-friend-now-says-he-was-gu-1575068202) > > Yeah, I couldn’t believe it either. But I can’t find any indication that this has been debunked. He claims to be Zimmerman’s best friend. So far as I can tell, Zimmerman has never acknowledged this relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/467 "2015-01-10T17:50:30Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > He claims to be Zimmerman’s best friend. So far as I can tell, Zimmerman has never acknowledged this relationship. Which, of course, does nothing to disprove his claim. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/468 "2015-01-10T18:16:03Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > He claims to be Zimmerman’s best friend. So far as I can tell, Zimmerman has never acknowledged this relationship. It’s funny that out of all these claims–best friend, racist, targeted Trayvon–it’s the friend thing that you question. Lol. I too think that is the least plausible of the three. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/469 "2015-01-10T18:35:56Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Karmically, Zimmerman is owed a great deal for what he was put through, at the urging of utter fucking arseholes like you, after being the victim of a serious assault. This is one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever seen a durper write. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/470 "2015-01-10T19:25:06Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Floridians, please know that if you see George Zimmerman charging at you, you have the right to stand your ground. This. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/471 "2015-01-10T19:27:44Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > He claims to be Zimmerman’s best friend. So far as I can tell, Zimmerman has never acknowledged this relationship. I’d be shocked and appalled if the no good piece of shit had ANY friends at all. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/472 "2015-01-10T19:31:46Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Yeah I’ll fucking defend innocent people from threats to kill them. That’s why I strongly support the right to self defence, and the right of the police to use force to arrest those resisting them. _Those_, the people who are being attacked and the police that protect them, are the people who need support, not the scum who think they have the right to attack people, steal shit, and generally break laws and make everybody’s life that little bit worse. > > I’m sure there are cops out there doing a bad job, attacking people without reason, stealing, or whatever, but this board has done a fucking terrible job of identifying them, instead focussing on cops who do their job dealing with the scum. And that is why it’s always Zimmerman pulling a weapon. Because he is innocent and is just scared. Bullshit. It’s cool as long as the right people are killing the right unarmed people. It’s so easy to say “I was scared” or “He was resisting”, if he is too dead to refute you. Zimmy must be really fvcking terrified of Everyone then :rolleyes: Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/473 "2015-01-10T19:43:02Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Career criminal? How many crimes has he been convicted of? Not that that’s relevant to wanting him killed by the police, like everyone else I’d prefer no-one was killed by the police… Sadly, people continue to resist them. > > You want him killed due to his being the victim of an assault, and defending himself. Don’t try and claim I’m the one doing anything wrong. Your claims seem a little bizarre for someone who’s response to the murder of Jordan Davis was to declare that you were thrilled because a “thug got killed”(your words not mine). It’s always weird to hear someone who openly endorses the killing of a young black boy who’s only crime was playing loud music while lecturing people who condemn George Zimmerman who seems incapable of staying out of legal trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/474 "2015-01-10T19:50:15Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > According to the Orlando Sentinel: > > The weapon wasn’t a gun but nevertheless, Zimmerman was ordered to surrender his weapons. > > It sounds serious, yet his bail is only 5k. > > No word yet on the doorhinge stuck between his ass cheeks. What was the weapon? Do you have a link to your cite? > [@](#): > > **Monstro** > Florida must have a whole lot of dumb, desperate women. Do we know that it was a woman he’s accused of assaulting? I assumed so because he’s already had had three different women file restraining orders against him which means either he is one of the unluckiest and most persecuted men on earth or he has a habit of getting violent with women and it used the term “domestic violence”, but has it been confirmed it was a woman he assaulted. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/475 "2015-01-10T19:58:34Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Your claims seem a little bizarre for someone who’s response to the murder of Jordan Davis was to declare that you were thrilled because a “thug got killed”(your words not mine). > > It’s always weird to hear someone who openly endorses the killing of a young black boy who’s only crime was playing loud music while lecturing people who condemn George Zimmerman who seems incapable of staying out of legal trouble. Like I said … as long as the RIGHT people get killed it’s peachy. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/476 "2015-01-10T20:00:56Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > What was the weapon? A wine bottle. > [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Do you have a link to your cite? [Link.](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GEORGE_ZIMMERMAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-01-10-08-39-17) It’s the same link as Snowboarder Bo posted above but I think it’s been updated since then > [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Do we know that it was a woman he’s accused of assaulting? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/477 "2015-01-10T20:10:34Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > A wine bottle. > > [Link.](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GEORGE_ZIMMERMAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-01-10-08-39-17) It’s the same link as Snowboarder Bo posted above but I think it’s been updated since then > Yes. Thanks. My mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/478 "2015-01-10T20:46:56Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Like I said … as long as the RIGHT people get killed it’s peachy. It’s never peachy, but when it’s those who attack others who get killed it’s far less bad than when those who are the victim of assaults who get killed. And _anyone_ who has to act in self defence is a victim, that’s why they had to defend in the first place. I genuinely don’t see how anyone could fail to understand that. Now if Zimmerman has, in fact, been attacking women, and is either convicted of that, or shot in self defence by one of them, I’ll be happy to condemn him. But that wouldn’t change the fact that he was the victim of a brutal attack by Trayvon Martin. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/479 "2015-01-10T20:50:28Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Trayvon Martin hadn’t been accused of a single crime either. That didn’t stop you and others from asserting he deserved to be killed. No, I don’t believe he deserved to be killed. I stated at the time, and still believe, that his death was an avoidable tragedy caused by his own actions. I’m sure there are people who think he deserved to die. Those people are just as reprehensible as those who think Zimmerman deserves to die, or who hope he dies, or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/480 "2015-01-10T21:04:17Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > It’s never peachy, but when it’s those who attack others who get killed it’s far less bad than when those who are the victim of assaults who get killed. > > And _anyone_ who has to act in self defence is a victim, that’s why they had to defend in the first place. I genuinely don’t see how anyone could fail to understand that. > > Now if Zimmerman has, in fact, been attacking women, and is either convicted of that, or shot in self defence by one of them, I’ll be happy to condemn him. But that wouldn’t change the fact that he was the victim of a brutal attack by Trayvon Martin. That was HIS claim. I don’t believe him. Get over it. Strange. He has a history of pulling or threatening to pull a weapon. A lot, apparently. Is the whole state brutally attacking him, every day? I call bullshit. I say he is a murderer and a liar and a coward. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480.md?page=25)