# George Zimmerman - In the news again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480 "2014-07-31T13:26:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/721 "2015-01-13T23:03:48Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> You really don’t have a clue, do you? Keep pretending I’m racist rather than addressing my actual arguments, 'm sure it’ll make you feel better.

What?!? You have failed to answer any of the questions posed to you, and you accuse others of not addressing arguments? Good lord this is one of the worst cases of projection I’ve seen on this board in a while. Is self reflection so hard for you that you’d rather do … whatever this is that you’re doing instead?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/722 "2015-01-13T23:06:39Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> You really don’t have a clue, do you? Keep pretending I’m racist rather than addressing my actual arguments, 'm sure it’ll make you feel better.

Your actual argument that if you ignore all the evidence, Dunn shouldn’t have been convicted? Let me address that now: you’re an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/723 "2015-01-13T23:14:12Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> What?!? You have failed to answer any of the questions posed to you, and you accuse others of not addressing arguments?

Just because you don’t like my answers doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/724 "2015-01-13T23:14:37Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> You really don’t have a clue, do you? Keep pretending I’m racist rather than addressing my actual arguments, 'm sure it’ll make you feel better.

I’m addressing your arguments – why do you accuse Davis of criminal behavior? What do you base this on?

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**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/725 "2015-01-13T23:19:00Z")

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If I jaywalk and some old white man yells at me not to do it, and I ignore him\> THUG!!! (depending on skin tone though)

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/726 "2015-01-13T23:20:52Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’m addressing your arguments – why do you accuse Davis of criminal behavior? What do you base this on?

His actions. I’ve already answered that question. You don’t like my answer. Tough.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/727 "2015-01-13T23:22:29Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> If I jaywalk and some old white man yells at me not to do it, and I ignore him\> THUG!!! (depending on skin tone though)

If you’re blocking his car, definitely. Regardless of skin tone. Or age, race, or gender of the complainer.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/728 "2015-01-13T23:37:06Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> If you’re blocking his car, definitely. Regardless of skin tone. Or age, race, or gender of the complainer.

Then you can shoot him. 🆒

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/729 "2015-01-13T23:42:03Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> His actions. I’ve already answered that question. You don’t like my answer. Tough.

What actions were criminal? You haven’t provided any evidence that Davis performed a criminal act.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/730 "2015-01-14T00:04:34Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What actions were criminal? You haven’t provided any evidence that Davis performed a criminal act.

Liar.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/731 "2015-01-14T00:12:11Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Liar.

No u 🙂

Cite, then. Back up your claim. What actions did Davis take that were criminal? What crime did he commit?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/732 "2015-01-14T00:27:35Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> No it isn’t, at least not in Florida. _And the idea of an affirmative defence is hideously immoral,_ so hopefully other places will follow Florida’s lead.

Wait, what?

Why is the idea of an affirmative defense “hideously immoral”?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/733 "2015-01-14T00:34:44Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Wait, what?
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> Why is the idea of an affirmative defense “hideously immoral”?

Makes it too difficult to get away with murder.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/734 "2015-01-14T00:35:07Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Wait, what?
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> Why is the idea of an affirmative defense “hideously immoral”?

Because it requires people to prove their innocence.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/735 "2015-01-14T00:36:10Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Cite, then. Back up your claim. What actions did Davis take that were criminal? What crime did he commit?

Done that already. You replied to the posts. Is there something wrong with your memory?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/736 "2015-01-14T00:47:43Z")

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nm, nm, nm  
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/737 "2015-01-14T01:02:49Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Done that already. You replied to the posts. Is there something wrong with your memory?

No you didn’t, liar. You’re lying, you lying liar. You provided no cite that Davis broke any laws, liar.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/738 "2015-01-14T01:08:46Z")

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It’s looking like that “epic asshole” nomination is well deserved.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/739 "2015-01-14T01:18:49Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> It’s looking like that “epic asshole” nomination is well deserved.

That you think that is very nearly proof beyond reasonable doubt that I’m entirely correct.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/740 "2015-01-14T01:23:13Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> That you think that is very nearly proof beyond reasonable doubt that I’m entirely correct.

Uh huh. Like I told Smapti, when 3 people tell you you’re drunk, it’s time to lie down. Also, try to stop being a racist.

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