# George Zimmerman - In the news again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480 "2014-07-31T13:26:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 45

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/881 "2015-01-15T23:22:55Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> :D:D:D
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> HA! That’s really funny! Did you come up with it?

I can’t take credit. Some version of it has probably been used by every firearms instructor since the beginning of firearms instructors.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/882 "2015-01-15T23:27:30Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I can’t take credit. Some version of it has probably been used by every firearms instructor since the beginning of firearms instructors.

You don’t say.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/883 "2015-01-15T23:44:39Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> …Need instructions on how to replace; the cloth, the rails, fill the joint in the slate, etc?
> 
> And I didn’t use Google once!
> 
> CMC fnord!

Good for you.

Now that you mention it, I’m thinking of replacing my pool table felt. Any recommendations for the felt and the adhesive? It’s located in a dry basement, on a cement floor.

I’m looking for a “pool table green” color which everyone seems to carry, and stain-resistant. Any thoughts on the “speed” of one type of felt over another?

[http://www.poolfelt.com/pool\_table\_felt\_buyers\_guide.html](http://www.poolfelt.com/pool_table_felt_buyers_guide.html)

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/884 "2015-01-15T23:46:12Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> You don’t say.

I did say. It’s right there above your reply. 🆒

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/885 "2015-01-15T23:54:45Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I did say. It’s right there above your reply. 🆒

Ha! You are a caution!

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/886 "2015-01-16T00:20:25Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Ha! You are a caution!

What’s a “caution”? I know what a henweigh is. Are they similar?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/887 "2015-01-16T00:39:31Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I know what a henweigh is.

[I don’t think you do](http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/spellcheck/all/?q=henweigh).

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/888 "2015-01-16T01:14:22Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> [I don’t think you do](http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/spellcheck/all/?q=henweigh).

There’s no point in having multiple dictionaries to choose from if you don’t take advantage of the situation.

> **[Urban Dictionary: henweigh](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=henweigh)**
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> a play on words joke, used when driving near a farm. may variations exist

or

Ernie Henweigh, a hard-drinking, has-been, head writer…

[http://www.mysterytheatreunlimited.com/variety2.html](http://www.mysterytheatreunlimited.com/variety2.html)

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/889 "2015-01-16T01:32:30Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> What’s a “caution”? I know what a henweigh is. Are they similar?

:D:D:D

Good one!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/890 "2015-01-16T03:52:55Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> There’s no point in having multiple dictionaries to choose from if you don’t take advantage of the situation.
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> [Urban Dictionary: henweigh](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=henweigh)

If you want to look up stuff on Urbandictionary, go look up “thug”. Here, I’ll do it for you:

2.) Caucasian slang for nigger, used in cases where upper middle class respectable white people want to express their disdain for what they feel are vaguely frightening black people but don’t want to face the social and physical consequences of openly using the word nigger.

I think you just got rekt.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/891 "2015-01-16T04:00:40Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> If you want to look up stuff on Urbandictionary, go look up “thug”. Here, I’ll do it for you:
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> 2.) Caucasian slang for nigger, used in cases where upper middle class respectable white people want to express their disdain for what they feel are vaguely frightening black people but don’t want to face the social and physical consequences of openly using the word nigger.
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> I think you just got rekt.

Bwahahaha. I think you’re making up words to make your posts indecipherable.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/892 "2015-01-16T04:13:27Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Bwahahaha. I think you’re making up words to make your posts indecipherable.

Which words confused you? Did you try looking them up?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/893 "2015-01-16T04:19:23Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Bwahahaha. I think you’re making up words to make your posts indecipherable.

Ha! Classic! You’re on a roll today, **doorhinge**!

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/894 "2015-01-16T04:37:21Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> If you want to look up stuff on Urbandictionary, go look up “thug”. Here, I’ll do it for you:
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> 2.) Caucasian slang for nigger, used in cases where upper middle class respectable white people want to express their disdain for what they feel are vaguely frightening black people but don’t want to face the social and physical consequences of openly using the word nigger.
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> I think you just got rekt.

Then how has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

**Evil Economist** : 0  
**AClockworkMelon** : 1

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/895 "2015-01-16T13:17:29Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Which words confused you? Did you try looking them up?

Thr r tw. Th frst s “wrkt” nd th scnd s “ **Evil Economist** ”.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/896 "2015-01-16T14:03:45Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Ha! Classic! You’re on a roll today, **doorhinge**!

Who knew **doorhinge** was such a quick wit?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/897 "2015-01-16T14:59:00Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Who knew **doorhinge** was such a quick wit?

**doorhinge** ’s Mom and Dad? **doorhinge** ’s twin brother? Joe Mama?

Who knew **andros** was such a big suck-up? 😃

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/898 "2015-01-16T17:04:52Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> **doorhinge** ’s Mom and Dad? **doorhinge** ’s twin brother? Joe Mama?
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> Who knew **andros** was such a big suck-up? 😃

LOL! Good one! I can’t stop spitting coffee on my monitor!!

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/899 "2015-01-16T17:12:05Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Are you saying that people should be convicted even if there is reasonable doubt about their guilt, in order to prevent “wild west quickdraws”? If so I disagree, I don’t care what the consequences are, don’t do it. I don’t happen to believe that would, in fact, be the result, but I don’t think it’s relevant either.

> [@Steophan](#):
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> You don’t take anyone’s word for it. You think for yourself, and decide if a reasonable person, in that situation, would have been in such fear.

And if witness testimony suggests that no reasonable person in his situation would have such fear, shouldn’t their testimony be heard?

And in answer to your first question: Yes, I am saying putting in prison some people who’s first reaction to a tense situation is to shoot the person in front of them on the off chance that that person might be about to shoot them is worth reducing the number of people being needlessly killed. Even if Dunn was wrongly convicted of murder, his penalty was still much less than the one received by Davis, and so laws should be in place to prevent this sort of tragedy.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/900 "2015-01-16T17:26:56Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> And if witness testimony suggests that no reasonable person in his situation would have such fear, shouldn’t their testimony be heard?

Yes, it should be heard. But you can’t base a claim of guilty on testimony that merely suggests it.

> [@](#):
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> Even if Dunn was wrongly convicted of murder, his penalty was still much less than the one received by Davis, and so laws should be in place to prevent this sort of tragedy.

I disagree, on two grounds. Firstly, what happened to Davis was not a penalty, not a punishment. It was either a crime, or it was an unfortunate side effect of Dunn defending himself.

Secondly, comparing the fates of Davis and Dunn is irrelevant. The principle that, because something terrible happened to one person, something bad but less terrible happening to someone else - who doesn’t deserve it - is fine, seems to me to be a terrible principle for a justice system to adopt.

Basically, what some people have been saying is that, because some people abuse self defence laws to get away with murder, those who act completely within those laws should still face some punishment. That, I reject utterly.

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