# George Zimmerman - In the news again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480 "2014-07-31T13:26:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1341 "2019-12-07T20:55:41Z")

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Forget it, crow. It’s Twoofertown.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1342 "2019-12-07T21:03:55Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> True justice would see that asswipe choke to death on a skittle.

Serious subject, but Damn! That’s funny! 😃

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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1343 "2019-12-07T21:22:59Z")

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Zimmerman is a loser.

Why are we still talking about him?

The whole story was a tragedy.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1344 "2019-12-09T16:40:32Z")

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> [@Bear\_Nenno](#):
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> Setting aside this guy’s previous right-wing nutjob work, which is admittedly pretty wild and ridiculous, and setting aside the fact that Zimmerman is a total piece of shit…
> 
> I have a simple question: Is the girl interviewed by Joel actually
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> 1. named Brittany Diamond Eugene
> 2. Rachel Jeantel’s half-sister
> 3. Two years younger than Racehel
> 
> Those three things should be easy to refute. Has anyone done that yet?? IF those three things are true, do you guys believe that it doesn’t matter? If those three things are true, then I think this should not be ignored just because this guy’s previous work was stupid nonsense about Obama being a Manchurian candidate or whatever. Did the boy who cried wolf eventually get attacked by wolves?

Sure, we _could_ actually look into it. We could also look into who really bombed the WTC, and whether we really went to the moon. Gilbert’s prior “documentaries” include nutjob pieces about “Obama’s real dad” and an allegation that Paul McCartney died and the guy everyone thinks is him being an imposter.

This isn’t Fred Hoyle claiming that flu is caused by sunspots after a brilliant career. This is a crazy person saying crazy things after a career of saying crazy things. So I’m pretty comfortable rejecting it out of hand.

I’m also pretty comfortable making the assumption that the Ninth Circuit State Attorney’s office didn’t confuse their star witness for a mentally disabled girl.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1345 "2019-12-09T18:06:48Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> Zimmerman is a loser.
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> Why are we still talking about him?
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> The whole story was a tragedy.

The fact that his mommy should have swallowed - but didn’t - is a tragedy.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1346 "2019-12-10T18:43:56Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> they would make such an outrageous claim unless they had iron clad evidence.

If they had ironclad evidence, wouldn’t it be better to start with criminal charges against the prosecutors and investigators, first? I’d imagine that would make recovering damages both easier and more profitable.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1347 "2019-12-11T18:03:12Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> I have trouble believing they would make such an outrageous claim unless they had iron clad evidence.

Have you done even an iota of research? Klayman has lost about 90% of the suits he has filed. He filed [multiple birther suits](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Klayman#Barack_Obama) without even an iota of evidence. He’s a professional crazy person.

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**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1348 "2019-12-15T16:16:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Have you done even an iota of research? Klayman has lost about 90% of the suits he has filed. He filed [multiple birther suits](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Klayman#Barack_Obama) without even an iota of evidence. He’s a professional crazy person.

Why don’t you attack the accusation instead of the messenger? You claim to be a lawyer. Do some lawyering here.

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**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1349 "2019-12-15T16:23:27Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Klayman and Zimmerman risk being sued themselves or being held in contempt of court if there is no merit to the case. I have trouble believing they would make such an outrageous claim unless they had iron clad evidence.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Have you done even an iota of research? Klayman has lost about 90% of the suits he has filed. He filed [multiple birther suits](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Klayman#Barack_Obama) without even an iota of evidence. He’s a professional crazy person.

> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Why don’t you attack the accusation instead of the messenger? You claim to be a lawyer. Do some lawyering here.

You argued that Klayman wouldn’t make an outrageous claim if he didn’t have iron-clad evidence. RNATB responded with evidence that Klayman had previously made outrageous claims with no evidence. It was an entirely relevant response, not an _ad hominem_ as you are trying to imply.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1350 "2019-12-15T16:26:09Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Why don’t you attack the accusation instead of the messenger?

Why don’t you quit quoting nutcases?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1351 "2019-12-15T16:26:30Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> "The research also allegedly reveals that Trayvon’s real girlfriend and legitimate phone witness was in fact Miami resident Brittany Diamond Eugene, who was switched out for Jeantel when Eugene refused to bear false witness against Zimmerman.”
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> [https://www.essence.com/articles/george-zimmerman-sues-trayvon-martins-family/](https://www.essence.com/articles/george-zimmerman-sues-trayvon-martins-family/)
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> Now who here is going to disparage Essence magazine?

Whose? Gilbert’s "research? Fuck that bullshit.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1352 "2019-12-15T16:32:12Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Why don’t you attack the accusation instead of the messenger? You claim to be a lawyer. Do some lawyering here.

Pointing out that Klayman has a documented history of nonsense lawsuits is entirely relevant to your remark. He sued the Obama administration for a secret plan to bring Ebola to the US to infect Americans. Please tell us again how he would only bring suit if he had “iron clad evidence”.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1353 "2019-12-15T16:32:44Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Pointing out that Klayman has a documented history of nonsense lawsuits is entirely relevant to your remark. He sued the Obama administration for a secret plan to bring Ebola to the US to infect Americans. Please tell us again how he would only bring suit if he had “iron clad evidence”.

Yeah. We’re waiting.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1354 "2019-12-15T17:37:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Sure, we _could_ actually look into it. **We could also look into who really bombed the WTC** , and whether we really went to the moon. Gilbert’s prior “documentaries” include nutjob pieces about “Obama’s real dad” and an allegation that Paul McCartney died and the guy everyone thinks is him being an imposter.
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> This isn’t Fred Hoyle claiming that flu is caused by sunspots after a brilliant career. This is a crazy person saying crazy things after a career of saying crazy things. So I’m pretty comfortable rejecting it out of hand.
> 
> I’m also pretty comfortable making the assumption that the Ninth Circuit State Attorney’s office didn’t confuse their star witness for a mentally disabled girl.

Bolding mine

LAZombie is a 9/11 Truther.

ETA link:

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881870](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881870)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1355 "2019-12-15T20:26:52Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Why don’t you quit quoting nutcases?

Birds of a feather?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1356 "2019-12-15T20:38:19Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> Bolding mine
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> LAZombie is a 9/11 Truther.
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> ETA link:
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> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881870](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881870)

I’ll make you a deal, **LAZombie** : If you make a public apology for the absolute crap you posted in that 9-11 thread I’ll consider what you say in this thread with an open mind.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1357 "2019-12-16T13:28:12Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> Bolding mine
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> LAZombie is a 9/11 Truther.
> 
> ETA link:
> 
> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881870](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881870)

To be fair, it was a confusing time. We were all in collective shock, trying to make sense of the senseless, struggling to accept that something so terrible could happen— that our enemies could, with seeming ease, reach out and cause so much harm when we weren’t paying attention. Telling ourselves there _had_ to be more to the story, and that it couldn’t be as simple, and as horrifying as it was.

I’m certain that **LAZombie** has learned a lot in the three months since then.

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**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1358 "2019-12-16T13:55:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’ll make you a deal, **LAZombie** : If you make a public apology for the absolute crap you posted in that 9-11 thread I’ll consider what you say in this thread with an open mind.

I know this is hard for liberal / progressive members of SDMB, but please stay on the topic of the Zimmerman case.

Please refute the claim that Rachel Jeantel was not the person speaking with Trayvon on the cell phone on the night of his death.

Thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1359 "2019-12-16T14:03:03Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> I know this is hard for liberal / progressive members of SDMB, but please stay on the topic of the Zimmerman case.
> 
> Please refute the claim that Rachel Jeantel was not the person speaking with Trayvon on the cell phone on the night of his death.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

IIRC, no one has presented evidence that Jeantel was not the one on the phone. Might as well refute the claim that Jeantel is not a lizard-creature from space.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1360 "2019-12-16T14:25:29Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> I know this is hard for liberal / progressive members of SDMB, but please stay on the topic of the Zimmerman case.
> 
> Please refute the claim that Rachel Jeantel was not the person speaking with Trayvon on the cell phone on the night of his death.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

The claim was made by a nut job who presented no actual evidence.

Done.

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