# George Zimmerman - In the news again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 31, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480 "2014-07-31T13:26:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1461 "2020-02-25T15:41:38Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Logic dictates that if Zimmerman was “chasing” or "“hunting down” Trayvon, the site of the altercation would be far past the location where it did occur. What logic really dictates is that Martin would not have fled in a straight line. _That_ fits the timeline. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1462 "2020-02-25T15:51:08Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Trayvon played the old “run and hide” trick eh? For all we know, Martin doubled back to hide in the last place where Zimmerman would think to look: his own truck! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1463 "2020-02-25T16:30:33Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > The shooting took place 75 feet from where Zimmerman’s vehicle was parked. [Zimmerman’s own testimony has him travelling a total of ~350 feet from where he says he parked his truck to where he encountered Martin plus another ~50 to where the body was found.](http://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/02/us/the-events-leading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin.html) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1464 "2020-02-25T17:31:51Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by \*\*LAZombie \*\* > The shooting took place 75 feet from where Zimmerman’s vehicle was parked. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Zimmerman’s own testimony has him travelling a total of ~350 feet from where he says he parked his truck to where he encountered Martin plus another ~50 to where the body was found.](http://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/02/us/the-events-leading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin.html) This is the part, **LAZombie** , where you say “Oh, thank you for pointing out the actual facts. I was badly misinformed, and my argument is therefore without merit.” ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1465 "2020-02-25T18:03:37Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Zimmerman’s own testimony has him travelling a total of ~350 feet from where he says he parked his truck to where he encountered Martin plus another ~50 to where the body was found.](http://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/02/us/the-events-leading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin.html) Could you quote from the link? I couldn’t find the reference to 350 ft. Beyond that, the maps in the NY Times article are very insightful. It is crystal clear that distance from Zimmerman’s truck to the place where Trayvon was shot is far less than 350 feet and more likely 75 feet. Also it should be noted that Travyon’s home is a mere ten homes from when he died. That’s probably 350 ft from Zimmerman’s truck ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1466 "2020-02-25T18:34:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > This is the part, **LAZombie** , where you say “Oh, thank you for pointing out the actual facts. I was badly misinformed, and my argument is therefore without merit.” “How do you know Trayvon ghost didn’t deliberately cause a wrinkle in the space-time continuum to make it seem like it was Zimmerman doing the chasing rather than the other way around, huh?” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1467 "2020-02-25T18:44:28Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Could you quote from the link? I couldn’t find the reference to 350 ft. Go to [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Retreat+View+Cir,+Sanford,+FL+32771/@28.7928208,-81.3305416,245m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e71298446ef275:0x103240a29e5dea4e!8m2!3d28.7921101!4d-81.3315296) and measure it. 75 feet was to the _front_ of 1231 Twin Trees Lane, not the _rear_. ~200 feet from his truck down the footpath to Retreat View Circle + ~150 feet back across the footpath = ~350 feet. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1468 "2020-02-25T18:50:26Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Go to [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Retreat+View+Cir,+Sanford,+FL+32771/@28.7928208,-81.3305416,245m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e71298446ef275:0x103240a29e5dea4e!8m2!3d28.7921101!4d-81.3315296) and measure it. 75 feet was to the _front_ of 1231 Twin Trees Lane, not the _rear_. > > ~200 feet from his truck down the footpath to Retreat View Circle + ~150 feet back across the footpath = ~350 feet. [270 feet by my count, plus of course half of that again.](https://imgur.com/a/Pz8riuZ) Look at what amazing researchers we are compared to **LAZombie**! I do eagerly look forward to him saying, “Oh, thank you for pointing out the actual facts. I was badly misinformed, and my argument is therefore without merit.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1469 "2020-02-25T18:53:19Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Also it should be noted that Travyon’s home is a mere ten homes from when he died. That’s probably 350 ft from Zimmerman’s truck More like 550. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1470 "2020-02-25T18:59:47Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Logic dictates that if Zimmerman was “chasing” or "“hunting down” Trayvon, the site of the altercation would be far past the location where it did occur. I believe Zimmerman walked to the general area where the fight occurred to see where Trayvon was headed. Trayvon emerged from the shadows and sucker punched Zimmerman. Pro-tip: Taking advice on what “logic dictates” from a 9-11 truther is a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1471 "2020-02-25T21:03:00Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > [270 feet by my count, plus of course half of that again.](https://imgur.com/a/Pz8riuZ) I didn’t even think of that method! [~350 total feet again.](https://www.google.com/maps/dir/28.7930641,-81.3300776/28.7930843,-81.3293113/28.7930758,-81.3296231/@28.7929521,-81.3298888,73m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e2) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1472 "2020-02-25T21:31:58Z")
[And here’s where 75 feet would have got him](https://www.google.com/maps/dir/28.7930641,-81.3300776/28.7930944,-81.3298864/@28.7930528,-81.3299792,61m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e2) - obviously the wrong side of the building. ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1473 "2020-02-25T21:35:38Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Go to [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Retreat+View+Cir,+Sanford,+FL+32771/@28.7928208,-81.3305416,245m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e71298446ef275:0x103240a29e5dea4e!8m2!3d28.7921101!4d-81.3315296) and measure it. 75 feet was to the _front_ of 1231 Twin Trees Lane, not the _rear_. > > ~200 feet from his truck down the footpath to Retreat View Circle + ~150 feet back across the footpath = ~350 feet. Oh, thanks! I did not realize you could use inputs other than addresses. I’m sure I read 75 feet somewhere. My bad. Nonetheless, Trayvon could have easily evaded Zimmerman but chose to confront him instead. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1474 "2020-02-25T21:42:23Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Nonetheless, Trayvon could have easily evaded Zimmerman but chose to confront him instead. According to Zimmerman. Too bad we don’t have Martin around to tell us his side of the story. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1475 "2020-02-25T21:44:15Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Oh, thanks! I did not realize you could use inputs other than addresses. I’m sure I read 75 feet somewhere. My bad. > > Nonetheless, Trayvon could have easily evaded Zimmerman but chose to confront him instead. Yeah, why didn’t he realize he wasn’t allowed to be out after sundown? A 17 year old black child confronted a man who had profiled him for merely existing in his own neighborhood, the situation escalated, the child ended up dead, and half the country holds the child largely responsible for not having run away from the adult, rather than the adult who incorrectly profiled a child as a thief and shot him. Those are the facts. Fuck George Zimmerman, and fuck this thread for never going away. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1476 "2020-02-25T21:46:43Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > {…} Nonetheless, Trayvon could have easily evaded Zimmerman {…} Might we have a phrase for the legal right to not flee from someone following you? Can you think of it? CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1477 "2020-02-25T21:59:04Z")
According to **LAZombie** , Trayvon running away and hiding is evidence of Martin’s malice. Zimmerman’s chasing and hunting is evidence of George’s innocence. Zimmerman can literally single out, chase, hunt, and **kill a child** who’s running away scared; hiding in the middle of the night from the gunman is evidence of his “guilt” and righteous slaughter. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1478 "2020-02-25T22:18:47Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Maybe, but zero fucks will be given in any event. > > Anybody likely to care or agree with anything that asswipe says already daily swallows a flood of bullshit from the CFSG. Well… yeah. That’s Zimmerman’s target audience. His efforts are to not be forgotten by them, such silly easily-distracted creatures they are. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1479 "2020-02-25T22:22:27Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Might we have a phrase for the legal right to not flee from someone following you? Can you think of it? > > CMC fnord! Hmmmm … remember, that phrase would have to refer to a legal right specifically recognized **in Florida**. fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/1480 "2020-02-25T22:25:30Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Logic dictates that Of all the dictators that you fantasize about serving, I am confident logic is not among them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480.md?page=75)