# George Zimmerman: it just keep\[s getting scummier **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 5, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415 "2019-12-05T16:19:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/1 "2019-12-05T16:19:19Z")
George Zimmerman is suing the family of Trayvon Martin (and others) for 100 million dollars. Defamation, don’tcha know. > **[George Zimmerman sues Trayvon Martin's family for $100 million in damages](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-zimmerman-sues-trayvon-martin-s-family-100-million-damages-n1095916)** > > The lawyer for the former neighborhood watchman alleges that a key witness was an "imposter." There’s also a movie coming: The Trayvon Hoax. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/2 "2019-12-05T16:28:11Z")
I assumed he’d just hook up with Casey Anthony and live a quiet life, reminiscing about how they both got away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/3 "2019-12-05T16:37:31Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I assumed he’d just hook up with Casey Anthony and live a quiet life, reminiscing about how they both got away with it. Meanwhile, O.J. Simpson’s saying “Oh sure, but a black man gets away with just one murder and right away they’re convicting you for some other felony you committed.” ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/4 "2019-12-05T16:44:04Z")
And of course he’s being represented by Larry Klayman. “In 2012, Klayman filed on behalf of a Florida resident an unsuccessful challenge to Barack Obama’s placement on the primary ballot and claimed the president is not a natural-born citizen as required by the Constitution.” And “In 2013, a citizen grand jury formed by Klayman “indicted” Obama and others of various crimes (including involuntary manslaughter), “convicted” Obama of fraud, and alleged the president forged his birth certificate in order to pass eligibility requirements.” Also “On October 13, 2013, during the US government shutdown, Klayman declared at a conservative rally in Washington, D.C. that “This president is not a president of We the People; he’s a president of his people” Further “In 2014, Klayman requested that the Department of Homeland Security initiate deportation proceedings against Obama.” So sayeth Wiki. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/5 "2019-12-05T17:20:49Z")
I assume (and hope) that the suit is dismissed with prejudice and I further hope he saddled with all court and other legal costs. It sounds like an attorney-initiated suit. Maybe he could be saddled with some costs too. ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/6 "2019-12-05T17:57:14Z")
I would imagine ol’ George is on welfare, collecting food stamps, trying to get disability. He wouldn’t even be able to get a job scooping up dog poop at a dog park. This brain-damaged attorney, who has most likely sued his own mother for birth trauma, probably recruited George as a client with dreams of The Emerald City. Hint to George: change your name to Bubba Z, move to Texas, and become a bounty hunter. ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/7 "2019-12-05T18:26:15Z")
He’s reportedly $2.5 million in debt. Apparently the market for his crappy paintings dried up, and he’s probably sold the murder weapon, as he tried to do years ago. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/8 "2019-12-05T18:41:25Z")
I don’t have a dog in this fight. But there is alleged circumstances that seems a bit odd. This information needs to be investigated and discarded if it’s not true. That’s the best way to handle viral conspiracys > **[George Zimmerman sues Trayvon Martin’s family, prosecutors for $100 million](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/04/george-zimmerman-sues-trayvon-martins-family-prosecutors-million/?outputType=amp)** > > The allegations in Zimmerman’s lawsuit are based largely upon a book and film released in September that claims the Martin case was a “hoax” built upon “witness fraud.” > [@](#): > > . > The allegations in Zimmerman’s lawsuit are based largely upon a book and film released in September that claims the Martin case was a “hoax” built upon “witness fraud.” The director of the film, Joel Gilbert, planned to screen the film Thursday at the Coral Gables Art Cinema to coincide with the lawsuit announcement. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/9 "2019-12-05T18:49:05Z")
> [@VOW](#): > > I would imagine ol’ George is on welfare, collecting food stamps, trying to get disability. He wouldn’t even be able to get a job scooping up dog poop at a dog park. > > This brain-damaged attorney, who has most likely sued his own mother for birth trauma, probably recruited George as a client with dreams of The Emerald City. > > Hint to George: change your name to Bubba Z, move to Texas, and become a bounty hunter. > ~VOW Or hunt for feral hogs. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/10 "2019-12-05T18:52:01Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This information needs to be investigated and discarded if it’s not true. That’s the best way to handle viral conspiracys Just because someone makes a claim doesn’t put any obligation on authorities to investigate. Claims are not evidence. Based on the track records of all the people involved here, I suspect there’s no evidence to actually investigate. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/11 "2019-12-05T19:44:42Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I assumed he’d just hook up with Casey Anthony and live a quiet life, reminiscing about how they both got away with it. Ha! I thought of her too. They could have a terrible child together. Of course, she’d kill it one night when it inconvenienced her social life. ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/12 "2019-12-05T19:54:25Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Or hunt for feral hogs. Bubba’s Bodacious Fat-Back Burgers? ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/13 "2019-12-05T20:16:41Z")
By now you’d think ole George would have changed his name and settled into a new life. He had a pretty good clerical job prior to the shooting. Seems like he’s done nothing with his life since the trial. He’s had several run ins with the law. Totally wasted life. [http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/who-george-zimmerman](http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/who-george-zimmerman) > [@](#): > > The Orlando Sentinel confirms Zimmerman is, or until recently was, an employee at the Maitland office of Digital Risk LLC, a mortgage risk-management firm. His title: “forensic loan review analyst,” basically an underwriter. But he has not been at work since the shooting. > Records show he previously worked for used-car retailer CarMax and at a Lake Mary insurance company. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/14 "2019-12-05T20:31:09Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > …Totally wasted life… Did you expect him to win a Nobel Prize or something? Let’s just say, wasting his own life is the least of the damage he caused. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/15 "2019-12-05T21:41:09Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > By now you’d think ole George would have changed his name and settled into a new life. He had a pretty good clerical job prior to the shooting. > > Seems like he’s done nothing with his life since the trial. He’s had several run ins with the law. Totally wasted life. > [http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/who-george-zimmerman](http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/who-george-zimmerman) That article is from 2012! It says that he hasn’t worked “since the shooting” which was only a month prior to the date on that article. That doesn’t mean that he _still_ hasn’t worked these past eight years. It’s not like they’re going to update the article when he gets a job. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/16 "2019-12-05T21:54:51Z")
Does Klayman still have a law license? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/17 "2019-12-05T21:56:06Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > There’s also a movie coming: The Trayvon Hoax. More like [a piece of right-wing propaganda](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22010033#post22010033). ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/18 "2019-12-05T23:02:49Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Let’s just say, wasting his own life is the least of the damage he caused. That’s a beautiful sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/19 "2019-12-05T23:22:56Z")
This lawsuit’s merit (if any) apparently hinges on this curious contention: > [@](#): > > The research also allegedly reveals that Trayvon’s real girlfriend and legitimate phone witness was in fact Miami resident Brittany Diamond Eugene, who was switched out for Jeantel when Eugene refused to bear false witness against Zimmerman In other words, the claim that the person (Rachel Jeantel) who at Zimmerman’s trial claimed to be his girfriend and on the phone with him when he was shot, was actually an imposter, inserted because the real girlfriend wouldn’t testify. Very strange. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415/20 "2019-12-06T00:05:09Z")
> [@Xema](#): > > This lawsuit’s merit (if any) apparently hinges on this curious contention: > > In other words, the claim that the person (Rachel Jeantel) who at Zimmerman’s trial claimed to be his girfriend and on the phone with him when he was shot, was actually an imposter, inserted because the real girlfriend wouldn’t testify. > > Very strange. Stranger still is the claim that Brittany Diamond Eugene, Travon’s 16 year old girlfriend who gave the initial phone witness interview, stated she was on the phone with Treyvon right before the incident, but she refused to testify. Rachel Jeantel, who is Diamond Eugene’s two years older half-sister, took the stand claiming to be Diamond Eugene. She said the “Diamond Eugene” is a nickname, and that she lied about being 16 because she thought she’d be afforded privacy if she were a minor. In court, the prosecution submitted as evidence a letter written by Diamond Eugene. When Rachel was asked to read it in court, she said she can’t read cursive. It’s not that there just so happens to be a random person whose real name is Diamond Eugene. This person is allegedly Rachel Jeantel’s half-sister, and she is the proper age as originally reported (16 at the time). If true, that isn’t just a coincidence. There is an interview with Diamond Eugene in the documentary. I haven’t watched it, but after reading about this lawsuit, the facts as well as the allegations, I really want to see it. I’ve yet to see anything refuting the fact that this Diamond Eugene girl _isn’t_ actually related to Rachel or this incident in anyway. That seems like it should be something easily refuted. Instead, all I’ve seen are claims that the case is baseless because Zimmerman is a douche bag, the “investigative reporter” has made some ridiculous claims in the past, and the lawyer is a right-wing activist. I have no doubts at all about those claims, but I don’t find them relevant to the actual allegations in this particular lawsuit. The allegations should be easily refuted with facts, but right now I haven’t seen any. I haven’t seen anything that says, “Rachel doesn’t have a half-sister name Brittany Diamond Eugene. The person in that interview is a liar.” If this girl is who she claims, then this lawsuit should not be dismissed solely because it’s coming from a douche bag, litigated by an asshole, and spurred from the ramblings of a right-wing conspiracy theorist nut job. I want to know if _this particular_ allegation is true. I don’t think it’s relevant what these guys said about Obama. I want to know more about what they’ve alleged in _this_ lawsuit. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-it-just-keep-s-getting-scummier/844415.md?page=2)