# Georgia - Pig ignorant racists and proud of it!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 25, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483 "2015-09-25T14:10:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/41 "2015-09-26T19:34:10Z")

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That raises the question of free-stone or cling now, doesn’t it?

Anti-porcite? Moi?

OK, it’s a fair cop. Between bacon, BBQ, ham sandwiches and Spam, I’ve done my share of porcine consumption.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/42 "2015-09-26T20:14:45Z")

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Can we have DoD rename Ft. Gordon as Ft. Sherman? Just because, hey, it’s about heritage and honoring someone who had great victories in and around Georgia…

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/43 "2015-09-26T20:19:49Z")

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Nice touch.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/44 "2015-09-26T21:00:02Z")

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You forgot to label your thread with the RO tag.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/45 "2015-09-26T21:02:07Z")

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Maybe he’s run out of outrage and is now merely resigned.

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/46 "2015-09-26T21:11:12Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> You forgot to label your thread with the RO tag.

Yeah, well, some of us don’t believe in “labels”.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/47 "2015-09-26T21:21:04Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Can we have DoD rename Ft. Gordon as Ft. Sherman? Just because, hey, it’s about heritage and honoring someone who had great victories in and around Georgia…

Like [Fort McPherson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_McPherson#Origins)?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/48 "2015-09-26T21:42:49Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> You forgot to label your thread with the RO tag.

You forgot to wind your brain.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/49 "2015-09-26T23:31:52Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> You forgot to wind your brain.

Oh, burn. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/50 "2015-09-26T23:37:44Z")

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A burn would imply that I care about the person being “burned” in some fashion. Wrong again, as usual.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/51 "2015-09-26T23:46:40Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Nope. The second the traitors raised their flag they ceased being any part of “us.” They became “them,” and needed to be “suppressed with maximum vigor.” Any and every remnant of the Confederacy needs to be obliterated.
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> - My original example was the Nazi flag rather than the Rising Sun, but Godwinizing your thread in the OP is lame. 😛

The Lincoln administration disagrees with you:

[QUOTE=Secretary of State William Seward, to American ambassador to the U.K.]

“no expressions of harshness or disrespect, or even impatience concerning the seceding States, their agents, or their people, [those States] must always continue to be, equal and honored members of this Federal Union, [their citizens] still are and always must be our kindred and countrymen.”  
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Not that you’re wrong about the damned flag and the license plates. But liberals in the South have learned to pick our battles.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/52 "2015-09-27T00:06:29Z")

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I get your point. My ancestors fought to keep that flag flying. It’s the least I can do to dedicate myself to making sure it never flies anywhere ever again.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/53 "2015-09-27T00:07:32Z")

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Seward’s admonishment was really a butt-out warning to the UK, which might have been tempted to exploit the then-present unpleasantness for their own nefarious ends.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/54 "2015-09-27T00:16:03Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> A burn would imply that I care about the person being “burned” in some fashion. Wrong again, as usual.

Fuck recreational outrage. It serves no purpose, other than masturbation. Did you enjoy it, at least?

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/55 "2015-09-27T00:55:53Z")

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What about recreational outrage about other people’s recreational outrage?

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/56 "2015-09-27T01:04:51Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Fuck recreational outrage. It serves no purpose, other than masturbation. Did you enjoy it, at least?

Nah. Not recreational outrage. RO aspires to no purpose other than to allow the author to bask in her/his sense of “this is bad, and I am angry, therefore I am not bad.” without any real connection to a problem to be solved, or a solution, in the world at large. This thread doesn’t fit. It wants something to happen, that is, to make it less easy and accepted (by removing government sanction from) the display of a frankly and historically racist symbol whose only current purpose is to threaten black Americans (and, in Europe, to threaten other minorities because they recognize it as the second-best thing to the banned nazi swastika). That’s not RO, though it may be futile in this case.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/57 "2015-09-27T14:42:21Z")

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So … by just banning the symbols of racism is enough to actually eliminate racism?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/58 "2015-09-27T14:44:20Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> So … by just banning the symbols of racism is enough to actually eliminate racism?

No, but it helps.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/59 "2015-09-27T15:50:21Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> So … by just banning the symbols of racism is enough to actually eliminate racism?

It’s not “just banning” those symbols; it’s getting the government out of appearing to, or even actually, sponsoring those symbols.

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/60 "2015-09-27T16:23:19Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> It’s not “just banning” those symbols; it’s getting the government out of appearing to, or even actually, sponsoring those symbols.

Well then you will love this [image](http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/5928318_25c753cd5c.jpg). [Perspective](http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/65/ef/7e/stone-mountain-carving.jpg).

That is Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis.

[Stone Mountain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Mountain#Confederate_Memorial) Confederate Memorial.  
I personally think they should leave the relief carving on the mountain. So that in 1000 years people can see how horrifically racist the second half of the 20th century was. [Newspaper](http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-stone-mountain-20150731-story.html) article to same effect.

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