# Georgia - Pig ignorant racists and proud of it! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 25, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483 "2015-09-25T14:10:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/81 "2015-09-28T20:42:59Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Fuck off, **Silenus**. I stated a fact. With all the other problems we have going on in this country, whether or not someone flies a flag that (like it or not) is part of our history is trivial. **If only!** See post #70. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/82 "2015-09-28T20:44:35Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I hope you don’t feel the same way about the British visiting the US since you know the US were traitors at one point. When treason prospers, none dare call it treason. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/83 "2015-09-28T20:47:17Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > When treason prospers, none dare call it treason. But it is what it is. The US was founded by a group of traitors. I don’t hear much whining about that. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/84 "2015-09-28T21:06:08Z")
The [State Flag of Hawai’i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states#/media/File:Flag_of_Hawaii.svg) openly declares her loyalty to Great Britain. The [State Flag of New Mexico](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states#/media/File:Flag_of_New_Mexico.svg) proclaims itself both of the Pueblo Nation and the Empire of Spain. The [State Flag of California](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states#/media/File:Flag_of_California.svg) says “Fuck You United States” right there. The [State Flag of Maryland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states#/media/File:Flag_of_Maryland.svg) is, umm, well … outrageous in some weird and LSD induced fashion. The [State Flag of Mississippi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states#/media/File:Flag_of_Mississippi.svg) … and you think Georgia license plates are filthy … How about the [Flag of them United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States#/media/File:US_flag_13_stars_%E2%80%93_Betsy_Ross.svg), those are pentagrams, symbols of SATAN … calling up the demons of HELL … * * * The back side of the [State Flag of Oregon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states#/media/File:Flag_of_Oregon_%28reverse%29.svg) … yeah … [the younger the better](http://www.zimbio.com/America's+50+Most+Scandalous+Political+Scandals/articles/45/Neil+Goldschmidt+Beats+Statute+Limitations) … ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/85 "2015-09-28T21:08:26Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The Confederate flag is not black. Perhaps I missed a comma or something. Or a chromosome. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/86 "2015-09-28T22:37:44Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Or a chromosome. You so witty. But since genes and chormosomes have no impact on outcome and it’s all a function of environment I’ll survive and reproduce just fine. Enlighten me though, how does this circle jerk faux outrage actually benefit you? Help you score naive, hippy poon? Help you win some self righteousness contest I’m not privy to? Do you have any traitorous US flags in your possession? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/87 "2015-09-28T23:05:52Z")
Yeah, the Founding Fathers were a bunch of traitors. But, they were traitors who talked a big game about all men being created equal. The Southern secessionists were also traitors. They were traitors who unabashedly said that the notion that all men were created equal was “[a species of insanity](http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/cornerstone-speech/)” and who forthrightly rejected “[the debasing doctrine of equality of all men](http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_texsec.asp)”. I’ll take the hypocrites, thank you very much. And I have no problem with flying the flag of the first set of (hypocritical) traitors–especially since the United States _did_ eventually abolish slavery–and rejecting the flag of the open and unashamed Slave Power. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/88 "2015-09-28T23:14:32Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You so witty. But since genes and chormosomes have no impact on outcome and it’s all a function of environment **I’ll survive and reproduce just fine.** My faith in all womankind just nose-dived. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/89 "2015-09-28T23:31:19Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > My faith in all womankind just nose-dived. Plenty of women are just fine with someone who doesn’t faint upon seeing a scary symbol. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/90 "2015-09-28T23:34:18Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > Yeah, the Founding Fathers were a bunch of traitors. But, they were traitors who talked a big game about all men being created equal. > > The Southern secessionists were also traitors. They were traitors who unabashedly said that the notion that all men were created equal was “[a species of insanity](http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/cornerstone-speech/)” and who forthrightly rejected “[the debasing doctrine of equality of all men](http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_texsec.asp)”. I’ll take the hypocrites, thank you very much. And I have no problem with flying the flag of the first set of (hypocritical) traitors–especially since the United States _did_ eventually abolish slavery–and rejecting the flag of the open and unashamed Slave Power. So being a traitor and a slave owner is fine? As long as you express some sympathy? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/91 "2015-09-28T23:41:43Z")
Well, at least **octopus** is an open and unabashed supported of slavery ([not to mention genocide](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18724562#post18724562)). ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/92 "2015-09-28T23:43:52Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > Well, at least **octopus** is an open and unabashed supported of slavery ([not to mention genocide](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18724562#post18724562)). And where have I ever said that? It takes a special type of retard to even assume what you just typed. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/93 "2015-09-28T23:47:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > And where have I ever said that? Here you go: > [@octopus](#): > > Perhaps the OP will be consoled to learn that when I order a Confederate flag I do so via [http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...black-guy.html](http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...black-guy.html). Problem solved. Now if I could only find a Jewish swastika supplier. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/94 "2015-09-29T00:01:02Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > The [State Flag of California](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states#/media/File:Flag_of_California.svg) says “Fuck You United States” right there. You do not know much about the [Constitution of the United States of America](http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.html), do you? It does not matter what each state calls itself (commonwealth, dominion, etc.), the simple fact is that each of the fifty states in the US is a republic. California, therefore, is a republic and its flag proudly announces that fact. > [@](#): > > Article IV, Section 4 > > The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government By the way, your apparent grasp of US history is kind of weak. The American rebels were initially fighting to be treated the way they considered themselves: as Englishmen. England’s stunts, as the rebels saw the situation, were getting more and more egregious in treating them otherwise. Take a moment to peruse [this document](http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration.html) and then let me know if there’s anything in there that you still do not understand. Got any strong sauce for your pronouncements? The weak sauce isn’t cutting it. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/95 "2015-09-29T00:07:17Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I’m not writing to impress dullards that get offended over flags. Right. A flag is just a piece of cloth. It shouldn’t have any emotional significance for anyone. You must be ordering your flag to tear it up for rags because a piece of cloth can’t mean anything to you. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/96 "2015-09-29T00:25:01Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > Here you go: Wow. I must be a Stalinist and an Imperial Japanese for owning stuff with those insignia as well. So many hats to wear. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/97 "2015-09-29T00:28:19Z")
> [@Esox\_Lucius](#): > > Right. A flag is just a piece of cloth. It shouldn’t have any emotional significance for anyone. > > You must be ordering your flag to tear it up for rags because a piece of cloth can’t mean anything to you. Emotional significance sure. But if some one wants to wave, burn, or tear into rags any flag or book I’m not so primitive as to cry about it, behead others, or cause a ruckus in the Pit. Exercising free speech doesn’t put me into a tizzy. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/98 "2015-09-29T00:32:13Z")
“Causing a ruckus in the Pit” _is_ “exercising free speech”, you Confederate-Nazi-Stalinist-Imperial Japanese nimrod. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/99 "2015-09-29T00:49:09Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > “Causing a ruckus in the Pit” _is_ “exercising free speech”, you Confederate-Nazi-Stalinist-Imperial Japanese nimrod. A true paradox. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483/100 "2015-09-29T00:57:58Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Emotional significance sure. But if some one wants to wave, burn, or tear into rags any flag or book I’m not so primitive as to cry about it, behead others, or cause a ruckus in the Pit. Exercising free speech doesn’t put me into a tizzy. OK, I’ll use small words as my Official Liberal Good Deed of the Day (3 points, because **octopus** is \*really \*stupid): I totally support the right of anybody to wave, burn or tear to rags any flag they want. In fact, the easier it is to get and display the Flag of Traitors, the easier it is to identify the fuckwits flying it. What I **do** object to is a state in the Union giving **official sanction** , _in any way_, to said Flag of Traitors and Pig Fuckers. Clear? So wave your flags all you want. It just displays your stupidity and lack of Moral Fiber. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-pig-ignorant-racists-and-proud-of-it/732483.md?page=6)