# Georgia Schools: Dinosaurs Now Called 'Jesus Horses' **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372 "2004-11-12T13:51:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/1 "2004-11-12T13:51:29Z")
Actually, that was a Jimmy Fallon riff on the [latest anti-evolution efforts in Georgia schools](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=1&u=/ap/evolution_embarrassment): > [@](#): > > First, Georgia’s education chief tried to take the word “evolution” out of the state’s science curriculum. Now a suburban Atlanta county is in federal court over textbook stickers that call evolution “a theory, not a fact.” Some here worry that Georgia is making itself look like a bunch of rubes or, worse, discrediting its own students. > > “People want to project the image that Georgia is a modern state, that we’re in the 21st century. Then something like this happens,” said Emory University molecular biologist Carlos Moreno. Does this ever happen in Blue States? ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/2 "2004-11-12T14:02:11Z")
Jesus horses?! WTF?! This is so way out hilarious. Damn this is some funny shit. Best joke all month. If true, even better. 😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/3 "2004-11-12T14:12:04Z")
Actually, that link gives me a glimmer of hope. It seems like a good number of Georgia residents and teachers are appalled at this line of thinking. Good on them. ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/4 "2004-11-12T14:27:00Z")
Funny how **none** of those horses jump the Iridium layer at the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary in the fossil record _all over the world_. Oh sorry, did I just post an **undeniable FACT**? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/5 "2004-11-12T14:30:08Z")
Died in the Flood. _ahem_ It’s strange. I went to Catholic school in Mississippi and there weren’t any Jesus horses. Evolution was called the theory of evolution 'cause that’s what it is, but we never even touched Creationism, and you’d think you would in Catholic school? Then again, I only went for a year. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/6 "2004-11-12T14:34:41Z")
> [@Fear Itself](#): > > Does this ever happen in Blue States? [Evolution flap flares up in Wisconsin](http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6433296/) > [@](#): > > GRANTSBURG, Wis. - The city’s school board has revised its science curriculum to allow the teaching of creationism, prompting an outcry from more than 300 educators who urged that the decision be reversed. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/7 "2004-11-12T14:39:59Z")
Is it possible for me to get a job teaching evolution to Sunday School students? ---
**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/8 "2004-11-12T14:41:21Z")
> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#): > > Died in the Flood. > > _ahem_ > > It’s strange. I went to Catholic school in Mississippi and there weren’t any Jesus horses. Evolution was called the theory of evolution 'cause that’s what it is, but we never even touched Creationism, and you’d think you would in Catholic school? > > Then again, I only went for a year. As a recoving Catholic, I can state that the Vatican has no problem with Evolutionary theory, so long as it does not try to tackle the ‘first cause’ of everything…evolution is simply the mechanism by which God creates. In my experience, Catholic institutions of learning at all levels are excellent in teaching the scientific method, logic, and critical thinking…and i imagine that’s why there are so many ex-Catholics out there. _shrug_ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/9 "2004-11-12T14:46:39Z")
> [@Stonebow](#): > > As a recoving Catholic, I can state that the Vatican has no problem with Evolutionary theory, so long as it does not try to tackle the ‘first cause’ of everything…evolution is simply the mechanism by which God creates. > > In my experience, Catholic institutions of learning at all levels are excellent in teaching the scientific method, logic, and critical thinking…and i imagine that’s why there are so many ex-Catholics out there. _shrug_ That was in fact my experience as well – I went to a tiny, very poor Catholic school in a mostly Baptist area, and they were in demeanor a LOT more liberal than their Baptist counterparts. Apart from a few experiences, they were some of the warmest and most loving people I’ve run across, running a close second to the pagans I spent my time with in Virginia. 😃 I ran into none of the Catholic school stereotypes – the nuns were hard on us and there was corporal punishment, but not only were they always fair, even the students knew they were fair. There were exceptions, but the one exception got fired (a fact which I am sorely proud of, as it’s my ‘fault’ and my mother’s he got canned). End of hijack, possibly; back to your regularly scheduled pitting. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/10 "2004-11-12T15:02:12Z")
Are we _ever_ going to be able to stop being embarrassed by the Neanderthal right? Do we _always_ have to keep repeating the Scopes trial, almost a century later and it still isn’t over? ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/11 "2004-11-12T15:06:40Z")
> [@Fear Itself](#): > > Does this ever happen in Blue States? It happened here in [Minnesota](http://atheism.about.com/library/decisions/evo/bldec_LeVakeIndependent.htm) (and we didn’t even give electoral votes to Reagan in '84). I am proud to say that the insurance co. I work for is the one that defended the school district in this lawsuit. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/12 "2004-11-12T15:23:32Z")
> [@Stonebow](#): > > As a recoving Catholic, I can state that the Vatican has no problem with Evolutionary theory, so long as it does not try to tackle the ‘first cause’ of everything…evolution is simply the mechanism by which God creates. > > In my experience, Catholic institutions of learning at all levels are excellent in teaching the scientific method, logic, and critical thinking…and i imagine that’s why there are so many ex-Catholics out there. _shrug_ Yeah I’ve found that if you go through the Catholic system (grade school, high school, even into college) then you either turn into a priest of unshakeable faith or land in the agnostic/atheist continuum. From personal experience, most of my high school classmates have broken from the Church. Dangerous thing about classical education and critical thinking… it just doesn’t know where to stop. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/13 "2004-11-12T15:27:45Z")
And the Christian right wonders why we have so much trouble acting respectful toward their ideas. We have trouble because their ideas are so much horseshit – JESUS HORSE SHIT! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/14 "2004-11-12T15:30:21Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > And the Christian right wonders why we have so much trouble acting respectful toward their ideas. We have trouble because their ideas are so much horseshit – JESUS HORSE SHIT! Holy shit! ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/15 "2004-11-12T15:34:43Z")
As a geologist who’s looked at thousands of fossils with hundreds of folks over the years, I am sad near to the point of tears that the term “Jesus Horses” was never available to me before this day. How utterly perfect it is. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/16 "2004-11-12T15:48:29Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > And the Christian right wonders why we have so much trouble acting respectful toward their ideas. We have trouble because their ideas are so much horseshit – JESUS HORSE SHIT! I accept evolution as both a theory and a fact. I have no problem treating those who believe otherwise respectfully, even though I disagree with them. I wonder why I can do that but you can’t? The party of Tolerance, Diversity, and Acceptance takes yet another PR ding, I guess, while the Party of Evilness and Bigotry wins again, huh? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/17 "2004-11-12T15:50:27Z")
Check the masthead, Bricker - this board is about _fighting_ ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![smartini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@smartini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smartini)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/18 "2004-11-12T16:01:02Z")
Ahhh…another beautiful Friday morning and I awaken to see what the bozos in my fair state are up to now. Let’s see… Oh…there’s a recall on textbooks because they don’t specifically say that marriage is between a man and a woman…uh huh :rolleyes: Our past school superintendent has been indicted on diverting educational funds, with about 10K of it going for her face lift :rolleyes: And for Og’s sake let’s not leave out evolution theory…_again_ :eek: Jesuuus Horses! For what it’s worth petitions to nip this in the but have circulated through all the university system, etc…_we’re trying!!!_ It’s **damn hard** to be blue in a red state. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/19 "2004-11-12T16:06:46Z")
> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#): > > Died in the Flood. > > _ahem_ > > It’s strange. I went to Catholic school in Mississippi and there weren’t any Jesus horses. Evolution was called the theory of evolution 'cause that’s what it is, but we never even touched Creationism, and you’d think you would in Catholic school? > > Then again, I only went for a year. It’s been a long time since the Catholic Church got worked up about evolution, or scientific discoveries in general (some _applications_ of scientific discoveries get them a bit bent out of shape, but that’s a different story altogether). ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372/20 "2004-11-12T16:07:27Z")
> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#): > > …we never even touched Creationism, and you’d think you would in Catholic school? Not really. As I have mentioned in other threads, between Father Mendel, the geneticist, and Father de Chardin, the paleontologist, the Catholic Church has been pretty accepting of evolution all along. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-schools-dinosaurs-now-called-jesus-horses/274372.md?page=2)