# Georgia senate runoff elections. Let’s debate and make predictions

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015 "2020-11-07T23:16:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/361 "2021-01-06T04:44:39Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> The only way either of them loses now is _actual_ cheating.

Ossoff and Perdue could end up in a recount. Warnock and Loeffler will not. And cheating is always possible with Republicans, though at this point I think Kemp and his people are probably disinclined to help federal Republicans with anything at all.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/362 "2021-01-06T04:45:49Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> It’s not unreasonable for him [Sterling] to be giving a real-time live narrative on what’s happening, given the scrutiny - sorry, I should say blatant lying - that will inevitably ensue.

Preempting the obvious:

> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> Trump tweeted an hour ago:
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> Looks like they are setting up a big “voter dump” against the Republican candidates. Waiting to see how many votes they need?

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/363 "2021-01-06T04:46:28Z")

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If the predictions hold up, and the Democrats take both seats, I really really hope that the message finally gets through to what remains of the actual Republican party members and elected officials that hitching your wagon to the Trumplicans is a loser’s game, and will lead them into the wilderness for the foreseeable future.

I HOPE they finally realize this. I’m AFRAID that they will double down on the denial and end up trying to seize power through violence.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/364 "2021-01-06T04:47:19Z")

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Me too. And I have to wake up in less than 6 hours so cmon people! Help me get some sleep!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/365 "2021-01-06T04:47:19Z")

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Every dirty fantasy going through my mind right now involves Mitch McConnell’s waddle quivering furiously as he holds back an ugly cry.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/366 "2021-01-06T04:47:52Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Kemp and his people are probably disinclined to help federal Republicans with anything at all.

They have come out as Republicans, not Trumplicans. More people need to do this.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/367 "2021-01-06T04:49:13Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I really really hope that the message finally gets through to what remains of the actual Republican party members and elected officials that hitching your wagon to the Trumplicans is a loser’s game, and will lead them into the wilderness for the foreseeable future.
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> I HOPE they finally realize this. I’m AFRAID that they will double down on the denial and end up trying to seize power through violence.

But this didn’t start with Trump. They have long known that an increasing majority of the population are opposed to their policies, making them unelectable in a fair election. For decades they have been fully committed to undermining democracy rather than changing their policies.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/368 "2021-01-06T04:49:57Z")

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Purdue’s lead just increased, over 3000 now.

MSNBC has bubbles. The bubbles are crazy.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/369 "2021-01-06T04:50:01Z")

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Perdue just picked up a big pile of votes from somewhere - his lead is up to 3500.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/370 "2021-01-06T04:50:19Z")

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Stephanie Saul 4m ago via NYT

> Gov. Brian Kemp appointed Kelly Loeffler to the Senate in 2019, surmising that she would appeal to moderates. But she moved to the right, becoming a major Trump supporter.

Let the Republicans learn the lesson; A Trumplican is a loser, even in the state of Georgia. Trumplicans will destroy your party.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/371 "2021-01-06T04:51:18Z")

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It looks like any lead over 22.5K will exceed the .5% margin. I believe that both candidates will exceed that number, so if there will be recounts, they’ll have to be paid for by the…

[![](https://nflanagan.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/d068be02f1e2576b5f2b9470ba7a11a0.jpg?w=1024) ](https://nflanagan.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/d068be02f1e2576b5f2b9470ba7a11a0.jpg?w=1024)

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/372 "2021-01-06T04:52:08Z")

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I believe it was coffee county…

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/373 "2021-01-06T04:52:58Z")

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Those were same-day (today) votes in DeKalb. Most everything else remaining to come in will heavily favor the Dems.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/374 "2021-01-06T04:53:38Z")

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NYTimes is saying the big bump of votes Perdue just got was R +5.7, but the **expectation** for those votes was R+7.4. So even in the remaining GOP-favored areas he’s underperforming.

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Raffensperger says ~17k overseas ballots, mostly military, deadline Friday. But I assume the gurus have factored that in.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/376 "2021-01-06T04:55:37Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Every dirty fantasy going through my mind right now involves Mitch McConnell’s waddle quivering furiously as he holds back an ugly cry.

I want to hug and pet and squeeze this post and call it George. . .

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/377 "2021-01-06T04:58:50Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Stephanie Saul 4m ago via NYT
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> > Gov. Brian Kemp appointed Kelly Loeffler to the Senate in 2019, surmising that she would appeal to moderates. But she moved to the right, becoming a major Trump supporter.

She didn’t just move to the right, she told the right to read her bumper stickers as she passed them by. She’s more conservative than Attila the Hun. I guess Italy should be scared. 😄

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4pfvEFPvVGA/maxresdefault.jpg "WATCH: Kelly Loeffler's "Attila the Hun" ad") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pfvEFPvVGA)

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/378 "2021-01-06T04:59:31Z")

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Well. Georgia has pleasantly shocked me once. Odds are looking good they’ll pleasantly shock me twice. I am pleased 🙂 (so far).

But let’s give a big hand to one of the Democrats’ most important allies - Donald John Trump! If not for the steady drumbeat of his deranged ranting about how the Georgian elections were a sham I’m guessing both of these seats would have stayed R, as per usual. Good on ya, Donald you old sociopath - way to throw your party under the bus!

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/379 "2021-01-06T05:01:03Z")

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Dave Wasserman has seen enough:

> <https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1346681326934650880?s=19>

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/380 "2021-01-06T05:01:57Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Dave Wasserman has seen enough:

Still, this is one occasion where I want to sit up all night and watch the inevitable happen.

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