# Georgia senate runoff elections. Let’s debate and make predictions **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015 "2020-11-07T23:16:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/482 "2021-01-06T12:55:54Z")
Except apparently Trump pronounces “Kelly” as “Karen” He called Loeffler “Karen” at the rally. Priceless > ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/483 "2021-01-06T13:04:16Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > He called Loeffler “Karen” at the rally. Priceless He was trying to say that she IS a “Karen”. 😈 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/484 "2021-01-06T13:09:42Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > updated just now: > > > [@](#): > > > > Jon Ossoff (D) leads by 16,370 votes over David Perdue (R) with nearly all of the ballots counted. One thing about the board that makes me smile is how (R) becomes (R). I always initially think it’s some snark about the Republican being bought out. BTW, if you do want to avoid that, put a \ before the closting parenthesis, like this (R\). And you make \ by making two backslashes (\\). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/485 "2021-01-06T13:12:25Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > He was trying to say that she IS a “Karen”. Now I have a mental image of her forgetting to bring the receipts when she shows up to return all those poor-people outfits she bought for the campaign and demanding to see the manager when the clerk won’t refund her money. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/486 "2021-01-06T13:15:46Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > One thing about the board that makes me smile is how (R) becomes (R). I always initially think it’s some snark about the Republican being bought out. > > BTW, if you do want to avoid that, put a \ before the closting parenthesis, like this (R\). And you make \ by making two backslashes (\\). Correction. It worked in the preview, but it switched afterwards. So I’ll have to do a more convoluted way: (R​) , which is written as (R​). And you get the & in that situation with &. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/487 "2021-01-06T13:23:25Z")
> [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > Stacey Abrams deserves to be on the $20 bill! I certainly hope not for at least 50 years- you need to be dead to be on currency. We love Stacey and need her to hang around for some time. Great wins for Team Blue! Who would have thought both GA seats go blue? Not me. I was thinking ME and NC were much better bets. Of course, the whack-a-doodles on FB are already posting how the election was stolen. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/488 "2021-01-06T13:24:15Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Not sure how he will be able to make it all about him but I am sure he will find a way. Easy: “these fraudulent Democrat wins in Georgia PROVE the election was rigged against me!” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/489 "2021-01-06T13:36:04Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Wow… I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Warnock won. Anti-semitism, spousal abuse, child abuse…nothing matters if you are a Democrat. Georgia had a chance to have a successful female to continue to be a positive ambassador for their state but instead chose this hatemonger. My predictions were way off but nothing surprises me anymore. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you view a [racist](https://news.yahoo.com/kelly-loeffler-runs-facebook-ad-193628867.html) insider trader as a “positive ambassador for their state” and her opponent (the Baptist pastor) as a “hatemonger”…but then Democrats being accused of what Republicans are guilty of should be no surprise to anyone by now. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/490 "2021-01-06T13:41:25Z")
Wow. A few thoughts while I drink my coffee this morning: Joe Manchin is the happiest man in America right now. What do you suppose McConnell is offering him to cross over – Appropriations Chair, unlimited campaign dollars, the pick among his granddaughters? And if he stays a Democrat, he can use that as leverage with Schumer to get what he wants. Even if Warnock and Ossof’s wins are confirmed, the Senate can by a majority vote refuse to seat a member if they decide he was not “duly elected.” Republicans still have the majority right now, but I’m hopeful that Collins, Romney and a few others would not go along with this maneuver. It will be very interesting how this election is interpreted going forward. Does this show Republicans that maybe there ARE electoral repercussions to jumping on the Trump crazy train? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/491 "2021-01-06T13:55:50Z")
Christmas miracle! That was a crazy ride. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/492 "2021-01-06T14:00:30Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Joe Manchin is the happiest man in America right now. What do you suppose McConnell is offering him to cross over – Appropriations Chair, unlimited campaign dollars, the pick among his granddaughters? Well, I wouldn’t be attending any weddings at Joe’s place any time soon. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/493 "2021-01-06T14:07:37Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Wow… I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Warnock won. Anti-semitism, spousal abuse, child abuse…nothing matters if you are a Democrat. Georgia had a chance to have a successful female to continue to be a positive ambassador for their state but instead chose this hatemonger. My predictions were way off but nothing surprises me anymore. You cannot express my joy at reading this whine in mere words. Cry some more, Argentina! ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/494 "2021-01-06T14:07:52Z")
That’s very common in campaign ads. If you are white you will also look darker. Campaign ads tend to cast the opponent in harsh tones for obvious reasons. > **[Did Clinton Darken Obama's Skin? - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/did-clinton-darken-obamas-skin/)** > > Obama supporters on the Internet are agitated over the apparent darkening of Obama's image in a Clinton attack ad.Our video team took a look. Our conclusions: The Obama frames from the ad do appear darker than other video of Obama from the same... ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/495 "2021-01-06T14:09:08Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > It’s better than the one I made up, which is that if Republicans write-in Trump for _both_ Senate seats, they will create joinder between the two races and if Trump gets the most total votes, he will be the next senator and can challenge Mitch for majority leader. Nice use of ‘joinder’ there. The joke I made up was that if Republicans wanted to sue to win a close election in court, it would hurt the case if too many Republicans voted. It got a couple dozen retweets, but otherwise didn’t get much traction. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/496 "2021-01-06T14:10:21Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Wow… I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Warnock won. Anti-semitism, spousal abuse, child abuse…nothing matters if you are a Democrat. Georgia had a chance to have a successful female to continue to be a positive ambassador for their state but instead chose this hatemonger. My predictions were way off but nothing surprises me anymore. Tip: Your predictions will be more reliable if you base them on reality. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/497 "2021-01-06T14:12:18Z")
I’m not sure what thread it was in, maybe this one, but I predicted that the Democrats in this race would “pull a South Carolina,” i.e. poll even or slightly ahead, but when the voting happened for real, they would both lose comfortably. Hot damn, I have never been more happy to have been so dead wrong! Woooohoooo - I am dumb!! PS. Stacey Abrams should get the Presidential Medal of Freedom within Biden’s first 100 days. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/498 "2021-01-06T14:15:39Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Y’know, just tossing in a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit accusations doesn’t work here on the Dope. You obviously have a different Dope habit than I do. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/499 "2021-01-06T14:25:23Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > That’s very common in campaign ads. If you are white you will also look darker. Campaign ads tend to cast the opponent in harsh tones for obvious reasons. So when is it “casting your opponents in harsh tones” and when is it “hatemongering”? And which was it when you referred to “Anti-semitism, spousal abuse, child abuse”? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/500 "2021-01-06T14:28:11Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > That’s very common in campaign ads. If you are white you will also look darker. Campaign ads tend to cast the opponent in harsh tones for obvious reasons. And is making the noses of Jewish opponents bigger, also common in campaign ads? > **[Republican senator deletes ad that made Jewish opponent’s nose bigger](https://forward.com/news/451581/jon-ossoff-jewish-nose-david-perdue-antisemitic/)** > > David Perdue ran an ad against Jon Ossoff, who is Jewish, that made Ossoff's nose bigger, a possible antisemitic dogwhistle, designers said. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/501 "2021-01-06T14:29:55Z")
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