# Georgia senate runoff elections. Let’s debate and make predictions **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015 "2020-11-07T23:16:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/522 "2021-01-06T15:39:51Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > I’m also glad the flood of texts, phone calls, emails, and letters will _finally_ end. Me too. I live in Washington State but my work cell phone has a number that once belonged to a woman who moved to Atlanta, and she handed that number out to everyone as her own. (After a year and a half I still get people trying to reach her and I know way too much about her children, debt, and so on.) I’ve been getting non-stop calls and texts for months. I can’t tell you how many people called me to poll me for the elections in Georgia that I had to let down. I am so looking forward to a break from the damn circus. I live about as far from Georgia as you can be in the contiguous US and I’ve still been living through it. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/523 "2021-01-06T15:41:27Z")
What sites are you following for the latest/most reliable Ossoff/Perdue results/analysis? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/524 "2021-01-06T15:42:36Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > # DeKalb County will manually scan remaining 19,000 ballots > > > > From CNN’s Nick Valencia > > > > DeKalb County, in suburban Atlanta, began experiencing vote count delays early Wednesday morning due to some kind of technical issue at the election office. > > > > Due to these issues, an election official says the 19,000 remaining ballots will be “manually scanned to be tabulated and added to the total vote count.” > > > > “Georgia’s voting system provides built-in-safeguards, in the form of paper ballots, that allow us to quickly process ballots that are electronically cast. These outstanding paper ballots are currently being scanned and the tabulation will be completed as quickly as possible and in compliance with State guidelines," Erica Hamilton, director of voter registration and elections, said in a statement. > > > > **The county is a Democratic stronghold.** > > Note that last line (my bold). My prediction: “Loeffler alleges massive fraud in DeKalb county.” 🙄 > > These votes are mainly important for Ossoff’s win against Perdue, but Loeffler is the lunatic Trumpista I live in DeKalb, and, aside from a small enclave in the northern part of the county, it’s solidly Democratic. (And even Dunwoody, the city in the heart of the Republican part of the county, has a Democratic mayor. She’s a personal friend of my family, and a thoroughly competent woman, incidentally.) To be fair, though, DeKalb has a history of mismanagement and governmental incompetence. This is the county where a sitting sheriff murdered his newly-elected replacement. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/525 "2021-01-06T15:44:41Z")
I just saw a WSJ article saying that most of the 65k remaining ballots were absentee from mostly Dem leaning areas. > **[Ossoff Wins Georgia Runoff Election As Democrats Take Senate Control - Live...](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-2021)** > > Warnock and Ossoff flip GOP Senate seats In other words, likely Ossoff’s razor thin lead would increase, tho questionable whether it will exceed .5% ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/526 "2021-01-06T15:44:55Z")
I so so so want this to be true but according to one of the comments: “I thought the same at first too. Except he was referring to Ossoff’s loss to Karen Handel.” ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/527 "2021-01-06T15:49:30Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > running one of the most openly racist campaigns Oh wow! I must have missed that. No wonder she lost. What did she do? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/528 "2021-01-06T15:53:18Z")
Gabriel sterling said the results in ga are squarely on trump. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/529 "2021-01-06T15:59:20Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Gabriel sterling said the results in ga are squarely on trump Not entirely. As @ISiddiqui pointed out, Loeffler energized the black vote against her. There have been Warnock volunteers with signs on the major intersection near my house for the past several weekends. I was in a debate society at Georgia with Gabriel Sterling, incidentally. He was one of the conservative firebrands, but I’ve gotten a lot of respect for him for standing up to the Bully-in-Chief. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/530 "2021-01-06T16:01:54Z")
Well a clue might be where you found out about the anti-semitism, spousal abuse, and child abuse accusation you flung at Warnock. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/531 "2021-01-06T16:03:34Z")
Sterling said on cnn trump suppressed the republicans and energized the democrats. Loeffler, now that was absolutely stupid and the reason why warnock is so far ahead. Last night they were talking about her attack on the church. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/532 "2021-01-06T16:04:43Z")
There is a history in US politics at the national level of power flipping between GOP and Dems. Bush Sr. is the last time a party kept the presidency across candidates and he is one of the few one-term presidents. Obama and Democrats won handily in 2008 but eventually lost both houses. I wonder if part of the reason is that when a party gets control they start moving away from the center, pushing a small number in the middle to the other side. If the Democrats move enough to the left the next GA elections will favor the GOP. 538 has already started a conversation on the Democrats losing the house in 2022. As a moderate I have some vested interest in this being true, and maybe this would be a more interesting discussion in a separate thread. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/533 "2021-01-06T16:07:49Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Oh wow! I must have missed that. No wonder she lost. What did she do? Off the top of my head, here are two examples: She posed in a photo-op with former KKK leader Chester Dole. She welcomed the endorsement from QAnon promoter Marjorie Taylor Greene (who, incidentally, would later win her race for a Congressional seat.) ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/534 "2021-01-06T16:09:35Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > > [@ISiddiqui](#): > > > > running one of the most openly racist campaigns > > Oh wow! I must have missed that. No wonder she lost What did she do? A conservative arguing that a candidate is unfit because he’s allegedly an abuser? There’s so much irony in this, the post is magnetic. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/535 "2021-01-06T16:11:42Z")
Just a reminder: the Constitution states that, “Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members. . .” I would not be at all surprised if there was a Republican effort to refuse to seat certainly Ossoff, maybe both Ossoff and Warnock, on the basis that they were elected through massive fraud. I don’t think this would be successful, but it _could_ hold up seating one or both men for weeks or months while the Senate conducts an investigation of the election. And all that time McConnell would continue as Majority Leader. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/536 "2021-01-06T16:12:32Z")
Congrats Yanks. The Presidency, the House, AND now the Senate. So many wins here. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/537 "2021-01-06T16:13:32Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@agzem](#): > > > > Oh wow! I must have missed that. No wonder she lost. What did she do? > > Off the top of my head, here are two examples: > > She posed in a photo-op with former KKK leader Chester Dole. > > She welcomed the endorsement from QAnon promoter Marjorie Taylor Greene (who, incidentally, would later win her race for a Congressional seat.) - There was also some Photoshopping of skin color and nose size. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/538 "2021-01-06T16:16:06Z")
No I haven’t heard anything. It must be something really bad to the most openly racist campaign **EVER**. But that would explain her loss. Did she use the n-word? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/539 "2021-01-06T16:18:17Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > As a moderate I have some vested interest in this being true, and maybe this would be a more interesting discussion in a separate thread. Yes indeed, that would be an interesting thread. I will just say here that I am a moderate too, by international standards. In my native UK, I have voted for Labour, The Conservatives and The Liberal Democrats in various elections. But the US doesn’t have Left and Right right now, it has a center- **right** party (the Democrats) and a fucking lunatic conspiracy theory party (the Republicans). ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/540 "2021-01-06T16:18:18Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Congrats Yanks. The Presidency, the House, AND now the Senate. So many wins here. Yet, strangely, we’re not getting tired of winning. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/541 "2021-01-06T16:18:56Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > She posed in a photo-op with former KKK leader Chester Dole Oh wow. I actually believed CNN when they debunked that. I guess CNN got it wrong. > **[CNN's Tapper calls out Jon Ossoff for claiming Kelly Loeffler campaigned with...](https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/cnns-tapper-calls-out-jon-ossoff-claiming-kelly-loeffler-campaigned)** > > CNN fact-checkers concluded claim that Loeffler campaigned with Klansman was "false." [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015.md?page=28)