# Georgia senate runoff elections. Let’s debate and make predictions

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015 "2020-11-07T23:16:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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Pssst. Hey buddy: The Trumplicans lost. Get over it.

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Loeffler is an odious senate candidate but I kinda’ wish we’d drop the KKK angle and focus on other things. I think it’s likely she had no idea who Doles was at the time. It is definitely a black mark that Doles was (apparently) supporting Loeffler so strongly but the attacks go farther than that. Making such a big deal of a dubious claim allows people like agzem to ignore Loeffler’s real faults.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/544 "2021-01-06T16:26:38Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> What sites are you following for the latest/most reliable Ossoff/Perdue results/analysis ?

Scroll down to the Georgia county map and the counters below:

> **[Georgia Senate runoff election results 2021](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/georgia-senate-runoff-election-results-2021/story?id=74588101)**
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> GOP Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler are facing Democrats Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock in dual runoff elections that will decide which party controls the Senate.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/545 "2021-01-06T16:28:27Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> But the US doesn’t have Left and Right right now, it has a center- **right** party (the Democrats) and a fucking lunatic conspiracy theory party (the Republicans).

While I’m guessing a high % of Dopers know that, I’m also guessing that an astoundingly low %age of Americans, generally, do.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/546 "2021-01-06T16:31:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> There was also some Photoshopping of skin color and nose size. -

My bad. It was Perdue who did the nose thing.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/547 "2021-01-06T16:32:31Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> I’m also glad the flood of texts, phone calls, emails, and letters will _finally_ end.

My wife and I, here in California, decided to do our bit in both the General and the Runoffs, by hand-writing postcards encouraging get-out-the-vote. We sent y’all in Georgia a raft of annoying mail, and for that I’m sorry… 🙂 but it was for a good cause.

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> What sites are you following for the latest/most reliable Ossoff/Perdue results/analysis?

Here’s an election tracker from the NYTimes for the Ossoff race. Axios and Business Insider already called the race for Ossoff. AP has not yet called it.

> **[Georgia Runoff Results: Perdue vs. Ossoff (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/results-georgia-senate-runoff-perdue-ossoff.html)**
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> See full results and maps from the Georgia Senate runoff election.

Warnock has been declared victor by just about all the news outlets I’ve seen.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/549 "2021-01-06T16:37:45Z")

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Thx. I had been looking at that NYT site, but has not moved this a.m., and it doesn’t offer much in terms of what votes remain, timetables, etc.

Scrolling over the county maps, I couldn’t get a sense of whether more red or blue counties were at 95% reported.

Damn, I’ll be glad when 1/21 comes!

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/550 "2021-01-06T16:39:03Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> And assuming these results hold up – let’s all have a moment of sympathy for Chuck Schumer. He who holds the **reigns** will be held accountable for the results, yet he will have almost no ability to move Democratic priorities through the Senate.

Ahem.

_ **REINS** _, dammit!

That is all.

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Thx. I had been looking at that site, but has not moved this a.m., and it doesn’t offer much in terms of what votes remain, timetables, etc.

Last I heard from Kornacki, the totals from some of the mail in ballots might not be counted until Wed. afternoon. And then there’s the military and provisional ballots on Friday. They estimate that to be around 17K so I doubt they’ll wait that long to call the race.

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> [@agzem](#):
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> Oh wow. I actually believed CNN when they debunked that.

We just assumed that since you’ve demonstrated yourself openly willing to present spurious, unsubstantiated allegations about a candidate, you’d be fine with us doing the same.

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> Here’s an election tracker from the NYTimes for the Ossoff race. Axios and Business Insider already called the race for Ossoff. AP has not yet called it.

Old-line media sources probably want to at least see Ossoff’s lead surpass the automatic recount threshhold (0.5%). Right now, Ossoff has 50.1932% of the vote (2,211,603 out of 4,406,181). Once he surpasses 50.25%, the election will more likely be called.

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> Congrats Yanks. The Presidency, the House, AND now the Senate. So many wins here.

And Gold at the World Juniors…so much winning.

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> [@agzem](#):
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> > [@Railer13](#):
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> > She posed in a photo-op with former KKK leader Chester Dole
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> Oh wow. I actually believed CNN when they debunked that. I guess CNN got it wrong.

Actually, what Railer13 posted was accurate, the mistake of Ossoff was to claim that the Klansman **campaigned** with her. There is no direct evidence of the KKK campaigning with her.

Now, thing is that I’m getting really, really tired of Republicans being so naive about the crowd they are attracting until others notice that they are mingling with unsavory people.

> **[Kelly Loeffler Keeps Posing For Photos With White Supremacists And Other...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kelly-loeffler-white-supremacist-american-patriots-usa_n_5fdbaec1c5b610200988c6dc)**
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> The senator recently disavowed a photo of her with a former KKK leader, but she’s repeatedly aligned herself with racists and far-right supporters.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/556 "2021-01-06T16:47:15Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> > [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> > Here’s an election tracker from the NYTimes for the Ossoff race. Axios and Business Insider already called the race for Ossoff. AP has not yet called it.
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> Old-line media sources probably want to at least see Ossoff’s lead surpass the automatic recount threshhold (0.5%). Right now, Ossoff has 50.1932% of the vote (2,211,603 out of 4,406,181). Once he surpasses 50.25%, the election will more likely be called.

Yep. It was similar in November when they waited for PA to be over 0.5% lead before declaring it.

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > I’m also glad the flood of texts, phone calls, emails, and letters will _finally_ end.
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> My wife and I, here in California, decided to do our bit in both the General and the Runoffs, by hand-writing postcards encouraging get-out-the-vote. We sent y’all in Georgia a raft of annoying mail, and for that I’m sorry… 🙂 but it was for a good cause.

So it was _your_ fault!

😃

That might be a good topic for another thread - at what point do texts, emails, and such, start having the opposite effect of putting _off_ the voter? I’m a yellow-dog liberal Democrat, and there was no question about how I would vote; but the near-constant flow of emails, texts, and phone calls from various progressive and Democratic groups (I was getting about four texts and 10 emails _every damn_ day for the past three weeks) really began to piss me off. Started sending short, irritated responses and blocking numbers.

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Have we finally gotten to the point where the GOP can’t win with Trump, but also can’t win without him?

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> [@tingbudong](#):
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> And Gold at the World Juniors…so much winning.

That’s one result which I’ll never accept. Canada won, everyone knows it; and I’ve hired “Charm-juggler” Giuliani to contest that in your court system.

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> [@flurb](#):
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> let’s all have a moment of sympathy for Chuck Schumer

I predict that on day one of the new session he unilaterally offers co-majority-leader status to Mitch in the spirit of bipartisanship, cooperation, and abject preemptive surrender.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/562 "2021-01-06T16:59:25Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> That might be a good topic for another thread - at what point do texts, emails, and such, start having the opposite effect of putting _off_ the voter? I’m a yellow-dog liberal Democrat, and there was no question about how I would vote; but the near-constant flow of emails, texts, and phone calls from various progressive and Democratic groups (I was getting about four texts and 10 emails _every damn_ day for the past three weeks) really began to piss me off. Started sending short, irritated responses and blocking numbers.

I had to block some groups’ emails, as they were getting quite rude. (alleging it would be my fault if the Dems didn’t pull this off because I had neglected to donate to this particular organization). Fuck that. It was clear to me that both candidates in this race had a sufficient budget to mount their campaign. Another million or two wouldn’t change the results.

> Our most important deadline is coming up – and we’re almost totally BROKE.
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> [This is a DISASTER if it doesn’t get fixed before December 31st.]
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> Procrustus, we could end Mitch McConnell’s Senate Majority FOREVER!
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> But only if we replenish this account SOON. [We’re begging you to chip in $5 now:]
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> [**Proctrustus**]  
> [**You**  **HAVE NOT DONATED**  **to win in Georgia and Flip the Senate**]

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