# Georgia senate runoff elections. Let’s debate and make predictions

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015 "2020-11-07T23:16:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/563 "2021-01-06T16:59:45Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> Kelly Loeffler certainly earned her wealth in the traditional manner – she married her rich boss.

I think she dated her boss’s boss’s boss’s boss or something like that. It was after she was married when he promoted her to be directly beneath him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/564 "2021-01-06T17:01:00Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> That might be a good topic for another thread - at what point do texts, emails, and such, start having the opposite effect of putting _off_ the voter? I’m a yellow-dog liberal Democrat, and there was no question about how I would vote…

For what it’s worth: the mailing lists we worked from were inactive registered Democrats, and the wording was relatively non-partisan, literally GOTV: here’s when and where you can vote. So in this case, it may have been effective (and you probably didn’t receive one of my postcards.)

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/565 "2021-01-06T17:03:09Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Scrolling over the county maps, I couldn’t get a sense of whether more red or blue counties were at 95% reported.

On the NY Times page, there’s a listing of counties and how much each has reported (sorted by fewest to most) – the fewest is a very small red county, and the rest of the \<98% are all larger and blue.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/566 "2021-01-06T17:04:55Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> Old-line media sources probably want to at least see Ossoff’s lead surpass the automatic recount threshhold (0.5%). Right now, Ossoff has 50.1932% of the vote (2,211,603 out of 4,406,181). Once he surpasses 50.25%, the election will more likely be called.

Well, I don’t want to count chickens before they’re hatched but even [Newt Gingrich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HghzVW2T9fU) [youtube] on Fox News is already assigning blame for the loss and writing about the horrors of what will happen once the Democrats take power.

Gingrich is already spinning voter fraud theories about why they lost.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/567 "2021-01-06T17:07:29Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> I think she dated her boss’s boss’s boss’s boss or something like that. It was after she was married when he promoted her to be directly beneath him. 🙂

So to speak.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/568 "2021-01-06T17:07:45Z")

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Ossoff’s lead is now up to 17,441

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/569 "2021-01-06T17:08:18Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I had to block some groups’ emails, as they were getting quite rude. (alleging it would be my fault if the Dems didn’t pull this off because I had neglected to donate to this particular organization). Fuck that. It was clear to me that both candidates in this race had a sufficient budget to mount their campaign. Another million or two wouldn’t change the results.

Whenever I donate to anything, I always use my junk mail address (a yahoo address), never my main email addy. Once I donate, I don’t read the followup emails; I delete immediately. Eventually I chose the _unsubscribe_ option to one of them and when I was able to give a reason I said, “I donated and now I’m getting three emails a day. This is not going to make me give any more.”

They do this because it works enough of the time to make it financially worthwhile. If it didn’t work, they wouldn’t do it. Just don’t read the followups. Blocking should be your first action if you’re bothered, not a last resort. JMHO.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@DMC](#):
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> > I think she dated her boss’s boss’s boss’s boss or something like that. It was after she was married when he promoted her to be directly beneath him. 🙂
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> So to speak.

She is certainly the scum of the earth, but this sort of thing strikes me as unnecessary.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/571 "2021-01-06T17:10:26Z")

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I suppose and you’re right, I shouldn’t have, but the feedline was just _there_…

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/572 "2021-01-06T17:11:41Z")

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Good morning, everyone. 🙂

And I do mean, GOOD morning!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/573 "2021-01-06T17:14:53Z")

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Movement on NYT site - Ossoff lead slightly larger!

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/574 "2021-01-06T17:17:26Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> > [@bordelond](#):
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> > Old-line media sources probably want to at least see Ossoff’s lead surpass the automatic recount threshhold (0.5%). Right now, Ossoff has 50.1932% of the vote (2,211,603 out of 4,406,181). Once he surpasses 50.25%, the election will more likely be called.
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> Well, I don’t want to count chickens before they’re hatched but even [Newt Gingrich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HghzVW2T9fU) [youtube] on Fox News is already assigning blame for the loss and writing about the horrors of what will happen once the Democrats take power.
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> Gingrich is already spinning voter fraud theories about why they lost .

No doubt. Just giving a take on why most of the popular media will delay making the call.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/575 "2021-01-06T17:21:36Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> Making such a big deal of a dubious claim allows people like agzem to ignore Loeffler’s real faults.

Thank you. Yes, let’s stop playing his game.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
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> [@Babale](#):
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> She is certainly the scum of the earth, but this sort of thing strikes me as unnecessary.

To be fair to @Gyrate, I was certainly aware of the double-entendre in my post, which he/she then played upon. Everything in my post is factual. Her husband did date a lower level employee and then promote her quickly up the ladder thereafter, ending up below him on the org chart after marriage, but I could have used the term “direct report” instead of “beneath him”, so I’ll apologize for that.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/577 "2021-01-06T17:28:05Z")

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That’s why I quoted both of ya’ll 😉 and you don’t have to apologize, I just think there’s plenty about Loeffler to hate for things she herself did and said without making this about who she married.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/578 "2021-01-06T17:30:44Z")

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As a basketball fan I’ve been pretty happy with the pros becoming politically active and they’ve done a better job organizing than the NFL (it helps of course that the NBA is being supportive). The support of Warnock from the Atlanta Dream was likely another brick in the wall that fell on Loeffler:

> **[WNBA players celebrate Warnock win over Atlanta Dream co-owner Loeffler](https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/532897-wnba-players-celebrate-warnock-win-over-atlanta-dream-co-owner/)**
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> Several WNBA players hailed Sen.-elect Raphael Warnock’s (D-Ga.) victory in Tuesday’s runoff election over Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.), the co-owner of the Atlanta Dream who has spoken out extensiv…

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> My wife and I, here in California, decided to do our bit in both the General and the Runoffs, by hand-writing postcards encouraging get-out-the-vote.

I’m about to toast Stacey… and you and your wife.

Stayed up too late watching results (and this thread), but it’s a new day, and I’m walking through snowdrifts to get a Coffee I Didn’t Have To Make Myself.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/580 "2021-01-06T17:46:08Z")

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Except she probably wouldn’t be a senator if it weren’t for who she married. She and her husband are now billionaires and they seem to have found it profitable for her to be a politician. She sits on the Senate Agriculture Committee which oversees the Futures Trading Commission, which regulates markets on her husband’s (and her former) exchange.

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I wonder how long it will take Loeffler to get over saying her phony “Y’all” all the time. Now let’s see how well her and Perdue manage their portfolios without insider information.

Let’s give all the credit where it is due: Stacey Abrams. She is the reason that Moscow Mitch will not be able to play the Grim Reaper for four years, she is the reason that Biden will be able to fill Supreme Court vacancies should they occur.

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> [@digs](#):
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> …and you and your wife

And to my ten-year-old son, who helped his parents write 500 postcards (apologies if I sound ‘me-too!’-ish). I introduced him to James Brown, OutKast, and lots of R.E.M. as we wrote them.

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