# Georgia senate runoff elections. Let’s debate and make predictions **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015 "2020-11-07T23:16:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/603 "2021-01-06T20:18:28Z")
Kevin McCarthy confirmed that someone was shot. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/604 "2021-01-06T20:18:58Z")
Yeahbut … apparently, CFSG has Tweeted asking for people to be calm. Day late, dollar short, criminally insane. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/605 "2021-01-06T20:21:10Z")
Well. I knew there would be problems. The plane full of ppl chanting at Romney yesterday boded poorly, and I KNEW damn well all those ppl weren’t traveling all that way just to mill about aimlessly. This is the direct result of 20 years of lies. They’re fed up with a bunch of imaginary shit they were told by con-men and they’re not gonna take it anymore. This is what happens when you get your political views from friggin’ former morning disk-jockeys(Rush, Glen Beck). ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/606 "2021-01-06T20:21:25Z")
White House Counsel probably pointed out to him that he’s getting close to incitement, so he’d better back it down. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/607 "2021-01-06T20:54:41Z")
In other news, Ossoff’s lead is up to 18,423 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/608 "2021-01-06T21:02:27Z")
> **[For Stacey Abrams, revenge is a dish best served blue | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/stacey-abrams-georgia-voter-suppression-trnd/index.html)** > > Georgia's political landscape saw a major shift this election season -- and much of the credit goes to someone who wasn't on the ballot: Stacey Abrams. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/609 "2021-01-06T21:08:50Z")
I’ve said for nearly four straight years … > President Trump has taken every conceivable position on every possible issue. He has affirmed and disavowed every position he’s ever held. He was both deadly serious and totally kidding. The strategy ? No matter the outcome, he can point to ‘evidence’ that he called it right from the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/610 "2021-01-06T21:23:50Z")
The AP, with other news organizations, has just called the election for Ossoff. Ossoff’s lead is now 24,859, which is just outside the threshold for a government paid recount. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/611 "2021-01-06T21:40:33Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Ossoff’s lead is now 24,859, which is just outside the threshold for a government paid recount. Excellent, as I have no doubt that Republicans will try everything to delay and obstruct seating Ossoff and Warnock. Not having the cover of the recount threshhold should help a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/612 "2021-01-06T21:41:58Z")
What’d I tell ya? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/613 "2021-01-06T21:56:22Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > As far as a prediction goes, most likely a split. I think Perdue squeaks back in, and Loeffler gets kicked to the curb. I hope I’m wrong and the Dems take both. I am quite happy to have been wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/614 "2021-01-06T22:12:16Z")
Surprisingly, 538’s early November prediction that the odds of a Democratic sweep were about 3 in 4 has been supported. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/615 "2021-01-06T22:14:41Z")
What can I say? Last night I had visions of Warnock and Ossoff yanking defeat from the jaws of victory. Glad to see I was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/616 "2021-01-06T22:34:14Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > When Clinton darkened Obama’s skin it was just a " **standard attempt to make an attack ad appear sinister".** Didn’t happen. > **[Did Clinton Darken Obama's Skin? - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/did-clinton-darken-obamas-skin/)** > > Obama supporters on the Internet are agitated over the apparent darkening of Obama's image in a Clinton attack ad.Our video team took a look. Our conclusions: The Obama frames from the ad do appear darker than other video of Obama from the same... ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/617 "2021-01-06T23:14:29Z")
I posted that exact same link myself. Scroll up to about 490 something to understand the context. And then look around 599 ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/618 "2021-01-06T23:14:56Z")
Uh, Doctor, I have been informed on other boards that fact checking organizations are biased and liberal-leaning. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/619 "2021-01-06T23:49:02Z")
I found this thread to be a great aggregator of the latest updates from many sources. Thank you to all stayed up late and contributed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/620 "2021-01-06T23:57:40Z")
Yes, BUT YOU DIDNT READ IT. _They did not darken Obama’s skin_, they darkened the entire video. That was exactly the point of the link you shared, yet you posted "_When Clinton darkened Obama’s skin…"_ ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/622 "2021-01-07T00:17:27Z")
Yes…so why is Kelly Loffler accused of being a racist for the same thing? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/623 "2021-01-07T00:22:07Z")
Loffler deliberately altered a picture of a Jewish foe to make his nose “more jewish.” Clinton did not alter the picture of Obama at all. The people who made the ad _may have_ darkened the entire video, but not just Obama. It also just could be the way the ad look son Facebook. " _Without access to the project files of the editor who produced this ad, we can’t measure precisely what color manipulations were performed. However, we can offer some observations based on our own experience, if you’ll bear with a brief interlude of techy nerd-speak._ _Some of the differences may be due to video compression [required](http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/topic.py?topic=10524) by YouTube, which encodes video to Flash format and re-sizes it, using its own required parameters before posting. The Clinton camp may have had one color scheme in its original video and ended up with a slightly different one after YouTube’s processing._ _In our [experience](http://www.youtube.com/user/factcheckdotorg) posting videos to our [Just the Facts feature](https://www.factcheck.org/just-the-facts/of_one_debate_two_big_topics.html), conversion to Flash format drives up contrast and reduces the mid-range color values that are frequently found in flesh tones and facial detail. We’ve noticed that Obama, and other candidates, appear drained of a bit of their color in some of our videos after they’ve been processed for posting._ _Still, the Clinton ad makers may have darkened the Obama images intentionally, to some degree. When it comes to video editing, the possibilities are overwhelming. But that doesn’t necessarily mean their motives were racist. We note that the entire ad is cast in dark tones and even Hillary Clinton herself appears in shadows, as though she were working late into the night."_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015.md?page=32)