# Georgia senate runoff elections. Let’s debate and make predictions **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015 "2020-11-07T23:16:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/624 "2021-01-07T00:47:47Z")
We’re talking about this aren’t we?: > **[Kelly Loeffler's new Facebook ad darkens skin of Raphael Warnock, her Black...](https://www.salon.com/2021/01/04/kelly-loefflers-new-facebook-ad-darkens-skin-of-raphael-warnock-her-black-opponent/)** > > The campaign spent 10 times as much boosting the ad as it did on another ad the same day that used untouched clips ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/625 "2021-01-07T00:51:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Loffler deliberately altered a picture of a Jewish foe to make his nose “more jewish.” No, that was Perdue, the supposedly more moderate of the two. So much for that! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/626 "2021-01-07T00:53:30Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Yes…so why is Kelly Loffler accused of being a racist for the same thing? Did she do the same thing (darken the whole image) or did she do something different (darken her opponent’s skin)? ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/627 "2021-01-07T01:10:13Z")
I’m logging out of this conversation. Congrats to the Democrats. But you better keep Joe Manchin happy because it doesn’t seem likely that he will go along with many of the things that other Democrats are hoping to do. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/629 "2021-01-07T05:25:07Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > What can I say? Last night I had visions of Warnock and Ossoff yanking defeat from the jaws of victory. Glad to see I was wrong. As am I. I predicted early on that both of the Rs would win. Very pleased to see this outcome; kudos to the D candidates and their campaign teams, and especially to Stacey Abrams! ---
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/630 "2021-01-07T05:46:21Z")
Lock your door, lock it tight It’s the new immoral right They wanna cleanse the home of the brave For the master race of the U.S.A It’s so beautiful on the street You won’t know them Like a pack of wolves In sheeps’ clothing, spreading wide Spreading far not just another false alarm It’s so beautiful America I got my bible America I got my handgun America Now I’m ready America Home of the brave America home of the slaves America Now I’m ready but are you? DOA 1982 ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/631 "2021-01-07T17:28:37Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Did the Dems stop all legislation from getting thru? How often did the Democrats use the filibuster? How often did Mitch actually put a bill up for vote after the Democrat’s took control of the House? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/632 "2021-01-07T18:12:33Z")
Answer my questions first, ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/633 "2021-01-07T19:00:28Z")
I don’t have a count, and am not going to look it up. But to my (limited) knowledge, the Senate originated basically no bills, and as of Feb 2020, there are [395 House bills awaiting Senate action](https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-grim-reaper-395-house-bills-senate-wont-pass-1487401). So after Mitch nuked the SCOTUS filibuster, there really wasn’t anything for the Senate Dems to filibuster (they having nuked the lower court filibuster to get around Mitch’s intransigence there). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/634 "2021-01-07T19:03:19Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I don’t have a count, and am not going to look it up. Then- go away. 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/635 "2021-01-07T19:18:32Z")
OK, I looked - there appears to have been [328 cloture motions](https://www.senate.gov/legislative/cloture/116.htm) in the current Congress, almost all filed by Mitch around nominees and which all passed (I guess that means moved on to a vote). Schumer filed one on the ACA, it failed which I assume means there was no vote on the motion/legislation. There were a handful of other failed motions on bills (and a couple of nominees). Feel free to count them (link provided above). It looks like 90% or so of the motions were for nominations, which don’t need a super-majority. If this list also represents all bills that the Senate considered, then I go back to my original point that there was nothing to filibuster because: a) the Senate originated little to no legislation of its own b) Mitch refused to bring any House passed bills to the floor. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/636 "2021-01-07T19:55:54Z")
How long do we think the Senate will be able to delay seating Warnock and Ossoff? I’m wondering if Biden will have to wait several months to be able to get his cabinet picks confirmed. Mitch will still be in control until they are seated. Big motivation for him to delay and countless lawsuits will probably be filed. By Trump’s rules for himself, Biden should be given an extra term or two if he has to wait a long time. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/637 "2021-01-07T20:01:06Z")
I’d imagine they’re going to be seated when the Senate returns on the 20th. Their margins were big enough to avoid a recount, and it feels like a lot of the fight has gone out of Republicans on baselessly challenging election results (for now). At his press conference right now, Lindsey Graham said, “we just lost two seats in Georgia.” ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/638 "2021-01-07T20:10:51Z")
I hope so then. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/639 "2021-01-07T21:07:11Z")
Mitch is going to obstruct for all he’s worth for the next six years and if his health holds up, the multi-chinned SOB might even run again in '26. But I also think he’s worried shitless because he’s not sure his party of insanity can win national elections any more. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/640 "2021-01-07T21:39:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Then- go away. _ **Moderating** _ This looks like junior modding and rude, to boot. Knock it off please. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/641 "2021-01-07T23:20:34Z")
Loeffler has conceded ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/642 "2021-01-08T00:39:26Z")
Didn’t she say she would never concede? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/643 "2021-01-08T00:39:57Z")
Good for her. It’s possible she actually heard that wakeup call yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/644 "2021-01-08T00:55:27Z")
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