# German name for cut of beef needed for Deli roast beef **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 5, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890 "2020-09-05T17:56:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/1 "2020-09-05T17:56:54Z")
So, living in Germany now many years, I realize I really miss a good NY deli-style roast beef sandwich. So I figure I’ll try to make it myself. [This](http://www.itsmydish.com/deli-roast-beef/) looks like a good recipe and it calls for a rump roast. Does anyone know what this cut would be called in German? I really don’t know, but one thing that seems confusing is, there is an actual cut of beef in German called “Roastbeef” (yes, literally using the English word), which, according to [this chart (PDF)](http://www.fleisch-teilstuecke.at/fileadmin/_/Teilstuecke/Poster/Poster_Rind1.pdf), refers to sirloin or striploin. And on that chart there are a few “rump” cuts mentioned, but I’m not sure which one is best to suit my purposes. Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/2 "2020-09-05T18:08:53Z")
I don’t know the name. But if you’re going to a butcher shop, does he have one of those segmented cow maps showing different cuts? Are those things all over? ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/3 "2020-09-05T18:11:51Z")
Rump or round. 1212 1210 1214 on the right side of that chart. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/4 "2020-09-05T19:18:07Z")
Wonderful, thank you! ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/5 "2020-09-05T19:47:18Z")
Google how to cook it best for deli-style roast beef. You need a good knife too, you need to be able to slice it thin. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/6 "2020-09-05T19:57:11Z")
A bottom round might be good. You could tell a butcher what you are doing, it’s that section at the top of the leg where sirloin, rump, and shank meet and greet. ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/7 "2020-09-05T21:00:49Z")
Yes, bottom round would work. 1211 on the chart, that’s how they would sell it in US supermarkets. 1219 is basically a whole bottom, 1212 is the eye (it looks like a mini trimmed tenderloin) and 1211 is the rest. One or the other of 1212 or 1211 will just be a little easier to work with than the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/8 "2020-09-05T22:39:18Z")
Oh man, now I’m getting excited. If I didn’t have such a tiny kitchen I probably would have just impulse-bought a meat-slicer. I want my NY deli-style roast beef! ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/9 "2020-09-06T04:13:49Z")
Rare, rye, mayo, salt & pepper for me! ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-name-for-cut-of-beef-needed-for-deli-roast-beef/919890/10 "2020-09-06T04:25:30Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > mayo Reported