# German question. Cabbage=Krautjunker? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [July 28, 2000, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-question-cabbage-krautjunker/27266 "2000-07-28T22:02:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-question-cabbage-krautjunker/27266/1 "2000-07-28T22:02:14Z")
Well here it is my first topic started in GQ. First some background. I’m a Marxist. As such I read Marx. Much of Marx’s work is poorly translated. As such, I frequently go back to the original german to find out what the fuck he was talking about. This one has me stumped. In his works Marx talks about the Cabbage-Junkers (how it is translated in English) _Krautjunker_ is the word in German. I simply thought that this was a derogatory way of refering to the German Aristocrats. Then I found that Marx himself translated _Krautjunker_ into “fox-hunter” when referring to the English aristocrats. So my question is two fold. What is the definition of krautjunker. Not the literal one, that is Cabbage-Junker, but what does this mean. Why did they use it? And also is it a pejorative word? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-question-cabbage-krautjunker/27266/2 "2000-07-28T22:35:04Z")
I’m reposting this in GQ where it belongs. Please close and lock. Sorry for my mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-question-cabbage-krautjunker/27266/3 "2000-07-28T22:43:32Z")
Locking this thread at the request of the OP. oldscratch, come back in this forum sometime, you hear?