# German soldier in "Saving Private Ryan" (OPEN SPOILERS!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 22, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395 "2006-11-22T06:13:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395/41 "2013-06-03T23:37:58Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Jumping in with your opinion about the movie as a whole is skirting dangerously close to threadshitting. > > **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator Sorry! That was me trying to answer the question with, “No. I could not accept that coincidence, but the Camel’s back was already broken.” Gee. That’s not much clearer, is it? 😃 I’ll try to behave. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395/42 "2013-06-03T23:44:06Z")
I _just now_ realized this was a Zombie! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395/43 "2013-06-04T01:03:55Z")
A World War Zombie! ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395/44 "2013-06-04T01:54:09Z")
> [@MovieMogul](#): > > Although we the audience see that Willie delivers Miller’s fatal shot (because we see it as a Willie POV), I think it would’ve been impossible for Upham to discern who killed whom from his vantage point and from the mayhem around him. We never see him observing the battle, just cowering in a pseudo-foxhole as the Germans pass his position. It seems reasonable that he wouldn’t come out from cover until it was firmly established that his side had the significant upperhand. Actually, the scene strongly indicates Upham has just seen Captain Miller being shot by Steamboat Willie. In [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnX_mQ9apu8) short clip: 0.44 - Camera is roughly from Willie’s vantage and he shoots Miller. 0.47 - You see Willie reloading 0.51 - Upham looking aghast to his right (where Miller was from his vantage) and then looking towards Willie. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395/45 "2013-06-05T14:04:07Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Guys, the question was not “did you like this movie” or “should I watch this movie,” but is Character X the same as Character Y. Jumping in with your opinion about the movie as a whole is skirting dangerously close to threadshitting. > > **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator Sorry, I felt that the question had been answered and a more general discussion of the film was proceeding. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395/46 "2013-06-05T14:59:29Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Actually, the scene strongly indicates Upham has just seen Captain Miller being shot by Steamboat Willie. In [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnX_mQ9apu8) short clip: > > 0.44 - Camera is roughly from Willie’s vantage and he shoots Miller. > 0.47 - You see Willie reloading > 0.51 - Upham looking aghast to his right (where Miller was from his vantage) and then looking towards Willie. Yeah, pretty conclusive from the way that was filmed. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395/47 "2013-06-05T16:10:47Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Actually, the scene strongly indicates Upham has just seen Captain Miller being shot by Steamboat Willie. In [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnX_mQ9apu8) short clip: > > 0.44 - Camera is roughly from Willie’s vantage and he shoots Miller. > 0.47 - You see Willie reloading > 0.51 - Upham looking aghast to his right (where Miller was from his vantage) and then looking towards Willie. I stand corrected (been a decade since I’ve seen the film, probably). Thanks! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/german-soldier-in-saving-private-ryan-open-spoilers/381395.md?page=2)