# Get off your cross, Giraffe

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 10, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225 "2006-06-10T18:45:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/21 "2006-06-10T21:28:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]  
This isn’t a thread about mod action or non-action.

It’s about **Giraffe** whining like a puppy with a thorn in his paw after I quoted his words almost verbatim.  
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So, this doesn’t count toward **Giraffe** ’s Pit total (as a mod)? Sweet!

Listen up, **Giraffe** , you can’t cheat your way to the top. You gotta _sleep_ your way, just like **samclem** , **tom** ~ and **Frank**.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/22 "2006-06-10T21:28:37Z")

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Pssst: When the overwhelming response toward your Pit thread is directed at you, a wise person admits his error and asks for the thread to be closed. Kinda like when you find yourself in a hole, the best solution is not to continue digging.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/23 "2006-06-10T21:34:59Z")

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You don’t understand! It’s the principle that’s at stake here! The principle!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/24 "2006-06-10T21:37:05Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Pssst: When the overwhelming response toward your Pit thread is directed at you, a wise person admits his error and asks for the thread to be closed. Kinda like when you find yourself in a hole, the best solution is not to continue digging.  
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This should be enshrined in Dope Lore as **The lissener Rule**. 😃

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/25 "2006-06-10T21:42:41Z")

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This thread belongs in MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/26 "2006-06-10T21:54:45Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
This should be enshrined in Dope Lore as **The lissener Rule**. 😃  
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I was thinking of exactly that recent thread, but there have been many others, too.

> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> This thread belongs in MPSIMS.
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Don’t complain to the mods. I hear they whine too much and then play the victim.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/27 "2006-06-10T21:55:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Ukulele Ike]  
You don’t understand! It’s the principle that’s at stake here! The principle!  
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If a head teacher and meat were involved, what principal would be at steak?

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/28 "2006-06-10T21:59:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]  
I guess I just didn’t understand this bit, then:My interpretation was that CS was the only topical forum. Could you explain it better for me?  
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I’ll try. CS is the only forum designated for certain topics. The whole point of CS is to steer certain topics there. Even if sports goes to MPSIMS, that doesn’t make MPSIMS about sports.

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> Do you disagree that he said he was against subdividing by topic outside of CS?

No, he made his personal, non official, opinion on that subject fairly clear.

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> Some of you might think that his “I’m not sure what forum would be best for sports” demonstrates the implied possibility that MPSIMS or IMHO might do as well.

Not really. I found that his “It seems to me that Cafe Society would be a good place, although IMHO or MPSIMS could also work.” said that WAY fucking clearer.

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> My attitude is the mods should respond to the users in ATMB without having to be begged, and should have the common courtesy to offer an official reply regarding how the board is run. _No official reply has ever been given._

Then I suggest you open a pit thread about THAT. You might find that there will be other posters on your side, since it may be a complaint with merit.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/29 "2006-06-10T22:13:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Colibri]

The logistical problems involved in actually crucifying a giraffe could make for a somewhat interesting GQ thread, however.  
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We’ve already tried to determine if they sink or swim, so why not go for this one too.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/30 "2006-06-10T22:15:47Z")

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> **John Mace** : Pssst: When the overwhelming response toward your Pit thread is directed at you, a wise person admits his error and asks for the thread to be closed. Kinda like when you find yourself in a hole, the best solution is not to continue digging.

But by then it’s too late! When a pitting turns on the OP, the mods won’t close it at the request of the OP. (heh, heh Don’t ask me how I know that.) I’m not so sure that I agree with you anyway, John. If you _still_ think you are right in pitting someone or something after considering the responses, you stand your ground until you are too tired to make sense anymore or until it’s just time to stop. Being out-numbered doesn’t make you wrong, but it should give you a lot to think about.

**Ellis Dee** , I think it is hilarious that you describe your comments as “bitching” – an adult sort of word, and you describe **Giraffe’s** explanations as “whining” – a childish attribute.

Just the opposite seems to be true. You are having a tantrum over absolutely _nothing_ of consequence and Giraffe has resorted to sarcasm after reasonable answers did not meet up to your standards.

You need to unlax.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/31 "2006-06-10T22:22:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Zoe]  
Being out-numbered doesn’t make you wrong, but it should give you a lot to think about.  
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In GD it doesn’t make you wrong. In here it makes you look Pit-able yourself! You’re supposed to blow off steam here, not bottle up more of it.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/32 "2006-06-10T22:38:44Z")

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I don’t “bottle up steam” when other people think I’m wrong. I’m _fairly_ non-defensive about personal attacks on me. (Not always, but mostly. I _do_ try to explain myself when I am misunderstood.) Anyway, I’m getting off topic. Sorry. How about if I say, “You win”? 😃

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/33 "2006-06-10T23:05:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Colibri]  
The logistical problems involved in actually crucifying a giraffe could make for a somewhat interesting GQ thread, however.  
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Esp. considering the whole “prehensile tongue” thing.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/34 "2006-06-10T23:11:42Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
It would require a 5-pointed star of some sort. I’m envisioning something like an old cover of National Lampoon, back in the late 60’s.  
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Found it! [June 1972](http://lampoon.rwinters.com/Lampoon1972.htm). Only, you know, with a longer bar for the neck.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/35 "2006-06-11T00:14:27Z")

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**Giraffe** cried like a girl just because **Ellis Dee’s** outrage boiled over again?

Day-um, lad’s gotta toughen up some. Here we were all hoping he’d cut loose with those wicked kicks, just like on _Wild Safari_, or maybe at least take a dump on somebody’s head, what with his height advantage and all, but noooooo…

This is the single lamest mod Pitting in memory. Pitiful, just pitiful.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/36 "2006-06-11T00:17:18Z")

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Should not that be **Pit** iful?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/37 "2006-06-11T00:22:38Z")

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Certainly wasn’t **Pit** hy.

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**Author:** ![sleeping\_mud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@sleeping\_mud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping_mud)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/38 "2006-06-11T00:24:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]

It would be nice if there were a forum devoted to bitching about the mods.  
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Who would moderate it?

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/39 "2006-06-11T00:27:20Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
Certainly wasn’t **Pit** hy.  
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No need to get _pithy_ about it.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-off-your-cross-giraffe/360225/40 "2006-06-11T00:28:58Z")

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[sing]“Isn’t it a pithy…”[/sing]

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