# Get Ready For The GOP To Do Whatever They Can To Steal This Election (Too)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746 "2012-10-04T21:48:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/241 "2012-11-06T19:08:41Z")

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Hey, machines like Romney, its only people that don’t!

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/242 "2012-11-06T19:16:34Z")

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> [@Anduinel](#):
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> [Voting machine in Pennsylvania recorded changing a vote for Obama to Romney.](http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/11/06/machine-turns-vote-for-obama-into-one-for-romney/)

There are so many different ways to rig voting machines, it wouldn’t surprise me if this relatively easy-to-detect cheat was installed on some machines just to deflect attention from other cheating.

Recall that the 2004 Ohio exit polls were severely at odds with machine-reported results. Anyone who still believes it was the exit polls at fault please fart up.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/243 "2012-11-06T19:21:20Z")

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> [@Anduinel](#):
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> [Voting machine in Pennsylvania recorded changing a vote for Obama to Romney.](http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/11/06/machine-turns-vote-for-obama-into-one-for-romney/)

The number of reasons NOT to use electronic voting is much, much higher than the number of reasons in favor of electronic voting.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/244 "2012-11-06T23:44:01Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The number of reasons NOT to use electronic voting is much, much higher than the number of reasons in favor of electronic voting.

If only in the name of voter confidence.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/245 "2012-11-07T00:25:25Z")

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[Watchdog: Evidence of Unlawful Voter Purge in Pennsylvania](http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/11/watchdog-evidence-unlawful-voter-purge-pennsylvania)

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/246 "2012-11-07T01:41:23Z")

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I was inside PA precints all day. Something was fishy with the pollbooks. Lot’s of people who were recognized by the pollworkers as voting there for decades who weren’t in the books. A ton of provisional ballots got cast. Let’s hope they get counted.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/247 "2012-11-07T02:36:38Z")

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And Pennsylvania is being called for Obama anyway.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/248 "2012-11-07T02:46:36Z")

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Lizzie Warren to the Senate! Sic 'em, Lizzie! And i’m not saying that just because she so hot!

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/249 "2012-11-07T05:08:16Z")

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It’s funny looking at this thread now and seeing all the Chicken Littles.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/250 "2012-11-07T07:46:20Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> It’s funny looking at this thread now and seeing all the Chicken Littles.

Perhaps Obama’s margin among Pennsylvanians was large enough to overcome the votes swindled by GOP cheating. Thank heavens for the “Chicken Littles” without whom there would have been more GOP cheating, perhaps enough to steal another election.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/251 "2012-11-07T10:08:44Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> It’s funny looking at this thread now and seeing all the Chicken Littles.

It ain’t so funny hearing responses like yours that suggest that lying, cheating and intimidation is okey dokey if it isn’t successful. Attempted theft is nothing to laugh at or sweep under the rug.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/252 "2012-11-07T10:13:24Z")

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Funny how all these Chicken Littles have actual pieces of sky to show to support their concerns.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/253 "2012-11-07T10:36:46Z")

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Well, this thread is over.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/254 "2012-11-07T10:57:16Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Well, this thread is over.

No it’s not.

USA. USA. USA.

And a hearty congratulations from downunder. May I mention that a big cheer erupted upon my call-centre floor at about 1.00pm (AEST) today when the first election ‘calls’ were made claiming victory for Obama?

Well done all. And thank god it’s over for another three years…you Yanks really know how to drag out an election campaign wot! 😃

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/255 "2012-11-07T12:45:47Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It ain’t so funny hearing responses like yours that suggest that lying, cheating and intimidation is okey dokey if it isn’t successful. Attempted theft is nothing to laugh at or sweep under the rug.

It’s funny to us who live in areas of firmly entrenched Democratic corruption to hear about all the pure of heart democrats riding the land as white knights slaying dragons.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/256 "2012-11-07T12:47:17Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> It’s funny to us who live in areas of firmly entrenched Democratic corruption to hear about all the pure of heart democrats riding the land as white knights slaying dragons.

That’s not election coverage you’re watching; it’s “Game of Thrones”.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/257 "2012-11-07T13:18:40Z")

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I grew up in Bridgeport. I have known politicians in that city my entire life. I went to high school with their last convicted mayor. That city has one of the finest Democratic machines still running in the country.

My experiences have led me to believe that politics is not a gentleman’s game, and I have great difficulty believing that the petty crooks I know are somehow transformed into paragons of virtue when they have worked their way up to state or national level.

Now, I may be extrapolating from to limited a data set, and my personal experiences may have made me overly cynical, but I do not see heroes and villians neatly dividing along party lines.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/258 "2012-11-07T13:34:20Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> That’s not election coverage you’re watching; it’s “Game of Thrones”.

It’s much more entertaining.

> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> I grew up in Bridgeport. I have known politicians in that city my entire life. I went to high school with their last convicted mayor. That city has one of the finest Democratic machines still running in the country.
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> My experiences have led me to believe that politics is not a gentleman’s game, and I have great difficulty believing that the petty crooks I know are somehow transformed into paragons of virtue when they have worked their way up to state or national level.
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> Now, I may be extrapolating from to limited a data set, and my personal experiences may have made me overly cynical, but I do not see heroes and villians neatly dividing along party lines.

You are not being cynical.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/259 "2012-11-07T13:49:54Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> It’s funny looking at this thread now and seeing all the Chicken Littles.

really? there is obvious problems but it doesn’t matter, somehow? what about next time? does the Democratic party have to consistently turn out many many more people to make up for the cheating?

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-ready-for-the-gop-to-do-whatever-they-can-to-steal-this-election-too/636746/260 "2012-11-07T13:55:05Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Well done all. And thank god it’s over for another three years…you Yanks really know how to drag out an election campaign wot! 😃

political machine people will take the week off and then start 2016.

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