# Get your fucking facts right (Kaitlyn/Priceguy)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 22, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342 "2005-02-22T15:17:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Freejooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba8739/32.png) [@Freejooky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freejooky)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/261 "2005-02-25T08:41:45Z")

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Nobody actually believes “Kaitlyn’s” new bullshit explanation, do they? It’s now blatantly obvious that Kaitlyn is none other than the original middle-aged nerd w/ the mail-order philipino bride who works at McDonalds.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/262 "2005-02-25T08:48:09Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> There may not be reprisals but someone around here is always willing to lead a backlash and nurse a grudge for Pittings. There’s no reason to risk your actual UserName if that’s your fear. There are no SDMB rules that I’m aware stating it can’t be done this way.

What exactly do you mean by this? That you think there are no rules against creating a second account to post something at the SDMB if you don’t want to post it under your own username?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/263 "2005-02-25T08:52:42Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> As for the other point, sure, maybe they did take a coward’s way out. Whoever supplied the info to the sock should’ve provided it to the Admins instead. (Or maybe the sock and the provider are the same?) Given some of the recent overblown events concerning Administration here, tho, I can understand why they may have decided not to.

I reject this justification also. If you want the administration to know something, but don’t want the administration to know who you are, e-mail it through a third party (a Doper friend of yours) or through an anonymous e-mail address. Someone like the poster here who created a sock puppet would obviously have been able to do that. There is no need to break the rules and make up a new name.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/264 "2005-02-25T09:03:17Z")

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I see your main point. There’s never a good reason to break the rules, since anything that needs to be done can be done within the rules.

I will now commit the ritual blood letting.\*

\*or just try to fall asleep. stupid flu.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/265 "2005-02-25T09:03:20Z")

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Well this thread has took a different turn.

Wish i’d done a search on Kaitlyns past posts now. I don’t even feel particularly venerated, just…bored.

I’d also like to ask why everybodys getting right on my case about the few posts i’ve made in this thread and that i’m an arsehole. Does anybody bother to read the significantly more posts I put into CS & IMHO? Guess not.

Oh, I don’t have internet access at home either, only at work, which is why I haven’t responded to this so far.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/266 "2005-02-25T09:05:52Z")

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Okay, that was stupid.

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**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/267 "2005-02-25T09:06:57Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Wish i’d done a search on Kaitlyns past posts now. I don’t even feel particularly venerated, just…bored.

Venerated? :dubious: Vindicated maybe?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/268 "2005-02-25T09:09:51Z")

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Ventilated?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/269 "2005-02-25T09:12:47Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> The sock gets Banned. It’s a mild risk for the satisfaction of busting someone in a web of lies.

If you don’t have the courage to post it under your own name you don’t deserve the satisfaction of busting someone in a web of lies.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/270 "2005-02-25T09:18:58Z")

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Yeah, vindicated, whatever.

Seems like all those ‘punctuation’ marks you were all so quick to jump on my head for weren’t so far off the mark now mmm? I may have made some mistakes along this path, but at least i’m telling the truth.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/271 "2005-02-25T09:23:37Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Well this thread has took a different turn.
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> Wish i’d done a search on Kaitlyns past posts now. I don’t even feel particularly venerated, just…bored.
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> I’d also like to ask why everybodys getting right on my case about the few posts i’ve made in this thread and that i’m an arsehole. Does anybody bother to read the significantly more posts I put into CS & IMHO? Guess not.
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> Oh, I don’t have internet access at home either, only at work, which is why I haven’t responded to this so far.

Cause you were acting like an arsehole in this thread. 😃 Bet you never thought you’d start something like this though.

Well, Kaitlyn turned out to not be a hot asian chick married to a hot asian chick. That’s a little disappointing. Since I only interacted with K6 a little bit and not in any of the transgender threads, it’s hard to feel betrayed.

I’m very curious about can of pineapples though. They had to have a serious something going on to do the research that they done. Who was that masked sock?

And if anyone else has any confessions about not being a hot chick, let’s get them out of the way now. 😛

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/272 "2005-02-25T09:43:40Z")

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I’m not a hot Asian chick. My wife is, though.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/273 "2005-02-25T09:51:38Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Yeah, vindicated, whatever.
> 
> Seems like all those ‘punctuation’ marks you were all so quick to jump on my head for weren’t so far off the mark now mmm? I may have made some mistakes along this path, but at least i’m telling the truth.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. You weren’t telling the truth, so stop dislocating your arm patting yourself on the back. Until this latest twist, you – and most of the rest of us – believed **Kaitlyn** to be a female. As should be known by now considering the many discussions regarding this issue here at the SDMB, it’s almost universally considered appropriate to describe transgendered individuals by the gender they identify with. **Kaitlyn** identified as female, and thus most everyone here referred to her that way.

You, on the other hand, used oh-so-cute quotes, which in this context were the written equivalent of rolled eyes accompanying the phrase “she, he, whatever – who can keep up with whatever these crazy trannies are calling themselves these days?”

It was dismissive, insulting and snide. And _that_ is what so many here were getting on your case about.

Yes, you got rather lucky that everyone is now understandably distracted by this latest revelation, but that doesn’t change the original dumbass behavior that got you piled on in the first place. How sadly predictable and pathetic to claim prescience now as a way of weasling out from under the justly-deserved pile-on.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/274 "2005-02-25T09:58:35Z")

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EEEEERNK! You misunderstand. I meant I tell the truth in general, not that I knew **Kaitlyn** was making it all up. And don’t even think about jumping on me about back peddling.

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**Author:** ![Arwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Arwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arwin)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/275 "2005-02-25T10:09:42Z")

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> [@Freejooky](#):
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> Nobody actually believes “Kaitlyn’s” new bullshit explanation, do they? It’s now blatantly obvious that Kaitlyn is none other than the original middle-aged nerd w/ the mail-order philipino bride who works at McDonalds.

I came to the board here at the end of December. Did you read the thread where I was pitted? (called “Bull and shit, Arwin”) If all of that was fake, it was pretty impressive:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=298974&page=2&pp=50&highlight=bull+shit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=298974&page=2&pp=50&highlight=bull+shit) (Kaitlyn joins in at post #60)

It’s obvious that transsexuality is something close to home for whomever is behind this username. How close to home, no-one may ever know, but the further from home, the more impressive the forgery, for sure, up to the point where the forgery itself becomes a work of art. Considering how many details were wrong, I’m inclined to believe a lot of the emotions were real.

I’ve done a little bit of acting in my student days and was struck by how many homosexual people this drew in (we’re talking more than 50% here). I thought then that if being homosexual is controversial (I was considered one for 2 years at high-school, but I was one of those rare PC people at my school who was more proud than worried, and enjoyed being allowed at the talks where girls discussed at which age they thought they should lose their virginity - at 15, the general consensus was 17 btw).

Incidentally, I just remember reading here that Mrs. Six was described as working at McDonalds before, and I think she referred to her more recently as a psychiatrist.

Ah well, such is life. Little of what I learnt from that discussion has changed value from that discussion, as you will see, and it just confirms that clinging stubbornly to high standards of knowledge and thinking is justified.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/276 "2005-02-25T10:11:14Z")

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> [@Arnold Winkelried](#):
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> If you don’t have the courage to post it under your own name you don’t deserve the satisfaction of busting someone in a web of lies.

OH, COME ON NOW. We’re arguing over someone who lied about their personal life for years being busted by someone who uncovered that fact but refused to divulge a Username??? This suddenly seems nuts.

Look. As SDMB administrator, I can appreciate your position that a sock isn’t necessary. I hope you can appreciate that using one can be effective while providing the sock with some measure of privacy independent of their usual board Username. (Assuming facts and evidence are on the side of Truth.) There are LOTS of people on this board who meet outside the forum IRL You may not be in full possession of the facts why it might not have been safe, appropriate, satisfactory or convenient for **pineapple** to divulge their actual username.

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**Author:** ![Arwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Arwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arwin)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/277 "2005-02-25T10:16:38Z")

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Posting at work is fun … :smack:

To finish the line I self-involvedly left dangling when the phone interrupted me:

\*I thought then that if being homosexual is controversial \* enough so that it forces you to hid it, you’re forced into acting something you’re not and to become more aware of playing a certain role in life. Life’s a stage and all that. I remember that what bothered me most about (just about all, not just homosexual ones) actors I hung out with then is that they stayed in character whether or not they were on or off the stage. It made them come across, well, fake. Mind you, they were all more or less amateurs and I was probably the worst, having no previous experience and being completely boggled by the sheer amount of text I had to remember (let’s just say my visual memory is … better).

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/278 "2005-02-25T10:20:08Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> There are LOTS of people on this board who meet outside the forum IRL You may not be in full possession of the facts why it might not have been safe, appropriate, satisfactory or convenient for **pineapple** to divulge their actual username.

Yeah, but why wouldn’t it be? This is a message board. It’s not as if they are spilling mafia or al qaeda secrets.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/279 "2005-02-25T10:25:35Z")

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Well chalk one up for the **Beserker**. He may know fuck all about fish and chips and have an unhealthy liking for fuck-off Toblerones, but he can sniff out a wrong 'un.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/280 "2005-02-25T10:28:56Z")

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> [@owlstretchingtime](#):
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> Well chalk one up for the **Beserker**. He may know fuck all about fish and chips and have an unhealthy liking for fuck-off Toblerones, but he can sniff out a wrong 'un.

That’s the thing. He didn’t. He was pissed about her posting in a thread where she didn’t belong. Turns out she did (“she” used out of force of habit) and if she didn’t it was a joke anyways.

Then he went off about her constantly talking about her surgery. No mention from Paul about K6 being a liar. Can of Pineapple did the work there.

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