# Get your fucking facts right (Kaitlyn/Priceguy)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 22, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342 "2005-02-22T15:17:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/21 "2005-02-22T18:05:38Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Doesn’t detract from the fact either that her and **Priceguy** both contradict themselves in that thread after what I said there.

No we didn’t. What were our contradictions?

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**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/22 "2005-02-22T18:39:15Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> The problem looks like it started with the first couple words actually…
> 
> Seriously. **Priceguy** didn’t tell _you_ anything. He politely requested in the OP that only a certain group of people answer. For some reason, you’re taking this personally when there was nothing in the OP that should suggest that. **Priceguy** then made the mistake of hijacking his thread by getting into the topic of **Kaitlin** , but he did start the thread. If I were he, I’d either ignore your ridiculous post or open a pitting on you. (Obviously I’m not he… and obviously he can make his own decisions too.) It looks like the thread is going on in spite of the hijack. But next time **Kaitlin** , please understand that it’s not an issue of limiting your “free speech”, it’s trying to find an answer to a question that a person has, and considering the parameters of the question, your input is not relevent.
> 
> **Paulberserker** , I don’t think I’ve ever been in a thread with **Kaitlin** before nor do I know much about her, but it seems that she identifies as a woman and a she, so when you put ‘her’ in quotes, it’s a bit demeaning.

Just FYI, Kaitlin and Katilyn are different posters.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/23 "2005-02-22T18:40:23Z")

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Just as clarification, any thread is open for participation by any Doper. The overall topic may be geared toward a certain subset–men, women, conservatives, liberals, anime fans, whatever–but replies are not limited to just those folks. Anyone who wants to offer a perspective is free to do so.

We don’t foster an atmopshere of “only X need reply.” If a thread wanders around a bit, so be it. Happens all the time.

Veb

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**Author:** ![Arwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Arwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arwin)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/24 "2005-02-22T19:04:27Z")

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Is there something you want to talk about, **paulberserker**? I mean, it’s obvious your issue with Kaitlyn seems to have little to do with the post, and everything with an annoyance with Kaitlyn in general. It’s your good right, but I’m just wondering why it really bothers you. If you don’t want to talk about it on the forum, feel free to email me, email addy is in my profile.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/25 "2005-02-22T19:17:38Z")

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> [@FilmGeek](#):
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> Just FYI, Kaitlin and Katilyn are different posters.

So there’s a **Kaitlin** , a **Kaitlyn** , _and_ a **Katilyn**?

😉

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/26 "2005-02-22T19:51:23Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> So there’s a **Kaitlin** , a **Kaitlyn** , _and_ a **Katilyn**?
> 
> 😉

Making _Starts with a “K”_ a dangerous choice on **Doper Jeopardy**. 😃

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**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/27 "2005-02-22T19:59:36Z")

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For what it’s worth, I read the poll thread without really knowing any of the players, and I interpreted \*\*Kaitlyn’s \*\* mini-hijack as an absurdist bit of humor. I found it funny, and it sure didn’t seem to derail the thread much. . .

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/28 "2005-02-22T20:07:57Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Direct quote of the post after mine. And below that, reference to ‘her’ sexual orientation.

> [@paulberserker](#):
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> I’m more bothered by the fact I called Kaitlyn on pointless hijack in a poll ‘she’ shouldn’t be taking part in and ‘her’ and Priceguy turn round and talk absolute crap about what they said, when its clear neither can read each others posts.
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> Oh, and the constant need for ‘her’ to mention who and what ‘she’ is at any given opportunity gets on my tits.

Simply fascinating use of quotation marks. Can you explain why exactly you chose to do that?

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/29 "2005-02-22T20:19:58Z")

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Just wanna pop in to say:

1. I have never found Kaitlyn to be snide, or an attention whore, or that she “chunters on about her sexuality”.

2. Knowing her, I assumed that the “How dare you” was a joke. Just another instance of how emotions don’t come through the pixels.

3. This gets my vote as “Pretty Lame Pit Thread of the Week”. Not “Lamest Pit Thread” y’understand. Just “Pretty Lame”.

4. What “fucking facts” did Kaitlyn and/or Priceguy **not** get right?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/30 "2005-02-22T20:45:18Z")

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I can see how people might have missed **Kaitlyn** ’s joke if they weren’t familiar with her posting style. It was pretty obvious to me, anyway. Even if it weren’t a joke, and the post was meant to be entirely unironic, **paulberserker** is still acting like a total choad about it. **Priceguy** started that thread, he didn’t seem to have a problem with her contribution to his thread, so what the fuck makes any of this your business, **paul**?

Also,

> [@paulberserker](#):
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> If, in every single post I mentioned, ‘Hey, i’m straight!’ or posted to a thread on ‘Gay people chine in here’, should I not get pitted?

No, on both counts. So long as everyone is being reasonable and respectful, I don’t think threads should be exclusive. Anyone that’s got a perspective on the issue at hand should feel free to chime in.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/31 "2005-02-22T21:22:14Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> **paulberserker** starts a pointless and insulting Pit thread. Bear shits in woods, Pope Catholic, Packers win the Superbowl.

If something is counterintuitive, can we then comment “Pope shits in woods, Bears win the Superbowl”? 😕

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/32 "2005-02-22T21:57:17Z")

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I can understand how my first post could have been misinterpreted when taken out context, and if **Priceguy** wants an apology I’d be glad to offer it here and in the other thread. I’d have gone on my merry way had it been anyone else starting that thread.

Here’s the context. We’ve been flirting for four or five days now over in the picture thread, where’ I’ve been teasing **Priceguy** about his not being allowed to participate in a virtual pillow fight–it’s for ladies only. There has been a lot of flirting going on there and in the flirting thread, guys flirting with girls, gay or bi guys with other guys, and a couple of instances of straight ladies with other straight ladies, but a lack of interest among the straight guys to flirt with other guys.

I assumed this was what prompted **Priceguy** ’s OP, and I followed him over from the picture thread to give him the same kind of “you’re leaving me out” jab he’d been giving me there. It was a joke meant to be taken as absurd on it’s face. The tone was one of Mock Outrage, which I thought would be obvious. Apparently, I wasn’t obvioous enough.

It would be easy for anyone who hasn’t been following that thread to misinterpret the joke.

As for this:

> [@](#):
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> In fact, the only time i’ve never heard you go on about your sexual orientation is in the comic threads. Shut up about it. I know. The entire fucking board knows.

I’m always open to the idea that I’ve been doing something without being aware of it, so I did a search on recent posts to see if this is true. I’ve posted to three different clothing threads, a comic thread, and a movie thread, all without making note of any aspect of my sexuality.

I’ve posted to a couple of “How would you feel if your SO did this” threads, and I identified the nature of my relationship to Mrs. Six because it was relevant to the discussion at hand.

I’ve posted to relationship threads, where I make reference to my wife in the same manner that other posters refer to their SO’s. I’ve made specific reference to my being a transsexual over the past week or so twice, both times in direct response to a question posed about that very subject.

I’ll continue to make references to Mrs. Six whenever it seems relevant to the discussion. Pretty much everyone in a relationship thread will identify their sexual orientatiion inderectly by making reference to their SO. I see no reason why my being gay should exempt me from doing so.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/33 "2005-02-22T22:07:18Z")

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> [@Una Persson](#):
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> Can you explain why exactly you chose to do that?

Well, because he’s a prat. Did you really need to ask? 😉

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/34 "2005-02-22T22:24:17Z")

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> [@Kaitlyn](#):
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> I can understand how my first post could have been misinterpreted when taken out context, and if **Priceguy** wants an apology I’d be glad to offer it here and in the other thread.

Absolutely no apology necessary. The post was funny, and the hi-jack was my fault, not yours. Since the thread was mine, no harm done.

The thread wasn’t opened because of the flirting threads, though; this is something I’ve been thinking about for quite some time. I hadn’t even noticed the phenomenon you describe of women flirting with everybody but men only flirting within their orientation. It’s just coincidence that I opened the thread now.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/35 "2005-02-22T22:24:40Z")

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Ordinarily I wouldn’t bother to post in a gang bang. Poor form for starters, pitching in to throw a punch at someone already badly beaten. Second most of the good insults have already been thrown. And third I can never think of a good third item except for a cliche horse that is now glue. 😉

And yet, here I am.

" **PaulBerserker** ’, you really had a decent little beef going. Posting in a thread asking for a certain view when you don’t share that certain view isn’t necessary. It’s a bit disrespectful to the OP. In this case, the OP didn’t seem to mind so points were deducted. It still wasn’t a bad rant overall.

Then “you” started up with the “quotation marks.” Makes you seem like a dullard with a teensy tiny lil axe to grind that you are very sensitive about and are likely overcompensating for. Not that I’m trying to imply anything. Heaven forbid.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/36 "2005-02-22T22:25:42Z")

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> [@Una Persson](#):
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> Simply fascinating use of quotation marks. Can you explain why exactly you chose to do that?

Oh, I can explain. You see, paulberserker is a fucking dick.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/37 "2005-02-22T22:31:18Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Oh, I can explain. You see, paulberserker is a fucking dick.

Actually, with attitudes like his, I would say he’s a NON-fucking dick.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/38 "2005-02-22T22:32:15Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> And **Ilsa Lund** pads his post count with a drive by waste of bandwidth.
> 
> Whats difficult to get about this? I’ve found **Kaitlyn** more and more recently to be a one trick pony attention whore, and this was something to hang it on. Doesn’t detract from the fact either that her and **Priceguy** both contradict themselves in that thread after what I said there.

So it’s your personal mission to seek out and ostracise the one-trick-ponies of the board, I take it?

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/39 "2005-02-22T22:49:35Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> Absolutely no apology necessary. The post was funny, and the hi-jack was my fault, not yours. Since the thread was mine, no harm done.
> 
> The thread wasn’t opened because of the flirting threads, though; this is something I’ve been thinking about for quite some time. I hadn’t even noticed the phenomenon you describe of women flirting with everybody but men only flirting within their orientation. It’s just coincidence that I opened the thread now.

Ah, my mistake. It’s an interesting phenomenon, I’m glad you opened the thread.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/40 "2005-02-22T22:56:12Z")

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If anything, **Kaitlyn** ’s “one trick” is talking a lot about clothing in detail. Which, in my book, is cool.

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