# Get your fucking facts right (Kaitlyn/Priceguy) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 22, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342 "2005-02-22T15:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/61 "2005-02-23T11:14:28Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > Sounds like “ **paulberserker** ” has some deeper issues “he” needs to deal with. I wonder what “he” is really offended by – a transsexual lesbian crashing a straights-only thread, or the fact that there really _are_ transsexual lesbians out there, and “his” being uncomfortable of that doesn’t matter one fucking bit, and there’s not a damn thing “he” can do about it. > > And since “one-trick ponies” get on your tits – I’m a homosexual. Knock yourself out. Without getting involved in the rights and wrongs of this, I just want to point out that I know **paulberserker** IRL, and he’s not homophobic _in the least_. ---
**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/62 "2005-02-23T11:29:20Z")
(sighs) Listen, I made the point you contradict yourself in the post where you say she made no reference to her sexuality. In your poll thread, **Kaitlyn** _clearly states_ she’s a Lesbian. Then you tell me she made no reference whatsoever. Which is what i’m pitting, along with every post **i’ve** read she refers to her sexuality. It’s all linked to in the OP. Seriously, it’s like firing fucking bullets into a brick wall with you people. READ. Or just go back to jumping on my use of ’ ’ s if you like, and simply repeating its a lame pitting yah yah yah. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/63 "2005-02-23T11:39:45Z")
> [@](#): > > With a screen name of “Kaitlyn,” I assumed she was a woman because of her screen name, just as I’m sure other people not intimately acquainted with her other posts do as well. I know it’s a lame point to make, but Ilsa\_Lund is also a womans name, and he’s a man. Look, I know Paul IRL also. Yes, he can be brash, stubborn, and sometimes goes the wrong way of making a point, but that’s just the way he is, and I wouldn’t expect him to change his personality just for these forums. I think this is the reason why alot of people pick him up the wrong way. I honestly don’t think he was using the quotation marks do denigrate her sexuality, more to back up his point of how it’s an emphasis in the majority of her posts. I don’t necessarily agree with him, but I thought I would add my 2 cents into this mess. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/64 "2005-02-23T11:58:10Z")
> [@paulberserker](#): > > (sighs) Listen, I made the point you contradict yourself in the post where you say she made no reference to her sexuality. Listen, I made the point you contradict yourself in the post where you say she made no reference to her sexuality. In your poll thread, **Kaitlyn** clearly states she’s a Lesbian. Then you tell me she made no reference whatsoever. _chuckle_ This is almost too good to be true. Go re-read that post. Read it carefully. It’s post #14. Go ahead, I’ll wait. No, actually, I’ll quote it for you: > [@Priceguy](#): > > When you posted your bit, Kaitlyn hadn’t yet mentioned her transgenderness. The only reason she did at all was that I had asked her questions. The only person who mentioned her transgenderness before you did was Malacandra. Did I say she made no reference to her sexuality? No? Then you’re looking _quite_ the fool right now, aren’t you? And then, of course, there’s this bit: > [@paulberserker](#): > > Seriously, it’s like firing fucking bullets into a brick wall with you people. READ. Comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/65 "2005-02-23T12:00:13Z")
> [@paulberserker](#): > > (sighs) Listen, I made the point you contradict yourself in the post where you say she made no reference to her sexuality. In your poll thread, **Kaitlyn** _clearly states_ she’s a Lesbian. Then you tell me she made no reference whatsoever. Which is what i’m pitting, along with every post **i’ve** read she refers to her sexuality. > > It’s all linked to in the OP. Seriously, it’s like firing fucking bullets into a brick wall with you people. READ. Or just go back to jumping on my use of ’ ’ s if you like, and simply repeating its a lame pitting yah yah yah. Then howsabout ya take a good deep breath and explain exactly _why you were using the quotation marks_ instead of jumping up and down like an angry lil monkey. You may even be able to collect some apologies. If course, if it was just some pathetic stab then feel free to keep on truckin with the angry misunderstood monkey bit. ---
**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/66 "2005-02-23T12:10:30Z")
What \*\*Twisty \*\*said. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/67 "2005-02-23T12:19:18Z")
> [@paulberserker](#): > > What \*\*Twisty \*\*said. Then why the ’ '? ---
**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/68 "2005-02-23T12:25:00Z")
M to F transgendered lesbian. Confusing to me. ‘He?’ ‘She?’ ‘Ze?’ ‘whatever?’ But sorry I didn’t obviously bow down to the wishes of the enlightened. Fine to call people all the cunts under the Sun, but fuck forbid you should cast aspersions on someones gender. All give yourselves a big pat on the back! Wankers. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/69 "2005-02-23T12:27:30Z")
> [@paulberserker](#): > > What Kailtyn is, I couldn’t care less, **it just seems to me in all the posts i’ve seen her make since her name change its blah blah transgender blah blah mrs six blah bah whatever** except the comic threads i’ve seen her in. Thats what i’ve seen. I agree that she’s been talking about it a lot lately. Her SRS was a major, major change in her life, probably not unlike being married. Would you be as angry if a newlywed doper mentioned his/her recent wedding all the time? If you really find her that annoying, put her on your ignore list and be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/70 "2005-02-23T12:32:25Z")
> [@](#): > > I agree that she’s been talking about it a lot lately. Her SRS was a major, major change in her life, probably not unlike being married. Would you be as angry if a newlywed doper mentioned his/her recent wedding all the time? Actually, I’d wouldn’t be suprised if Paul’s answer to this was in the affirmative. Paul, to use a Krusty the clown quote, is an “Angry, angry young man.” Just don’t confuse anger for hatred, of which there really isn’t an ounce of in him. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/71 "2005-02-23T13:10:54Z")
Harking back to what I said about **Kaitlyn** barging into the original thread, since it seems to have been a private joke between her and **Priceguy** , please allow me to retract my prior snarkiness. But you forgot the [private joke] tags [/pj]. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/72 "2005-02-23T16:30:32Z")
> [@paulberserker](#): > > M to F transgendered lesbian. Confusing to me. ‘He?’ ‘She?’ ‘Ze?’ ‘whatever?’ Don’t stress. If she wants to be called _she,_ it’s polite to call her _she._ Très simple, you’re doing it already, and everybody goes home happy. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/73 "2005-02-23T16:47:51Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > When quote marks are used around an ordinary word in its ordinary context, that is to imply doubt about the accuracy of that word, or to set aside its usage as being something out of the ordinary. At least in this country. In that post, they were used to imply that ‘she’ is not a she. You’re allowed to not like us jumping on it, but he deserves it. It seems fair to point out that in this very thread, it’s been acknowledged that the laws of at least three states consider **Kaitlyn** male, which suggests that there is some objective support for the quotation marks. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/74 "2005-02-23T16:53:31Z")
That fact is sure to calm this thread down **Bricker** 😉 ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/75 "2005-02-23T16:56:48Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > It seems fair to point out that in this very thread, it’s been acknowledged that the laws of at least three states consider **Kaitlyn** male, which suggests that there is some objective support for the quotation marks. So if 6% of states call you something incorrect, then it’s ok? (I see your point, but it’s not a compelling argument and it doesn’t justify those actions.) ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/76 "2005-02-23T17:15:39Z")
Three provinces and one territory don’t consider **scott and jeremy evil** married, but if you put scare-quotes around “married” or “husband,” there _will_ be Words Spoken. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/77 "2005-02-23T17:18:42Z")
I am so sick of the argument, “Well, I know Doper So and So in real life, and he’s really nice!!!” I don’t give a shit what someone is like in real life-it’s how they act HERE that matters. And if someone acts like a complete prick, I’m gonna call them on that. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/78 "2005-02-23T18:04:38Z")
> [@](#): > > What Kailtyn is, I couldn’t care less, it just seems to me in all the posts i’ve seen her make since her name change its blah blah transgender blah blah mrs six blah bah whatever except the comic threads i’ve seen her in. Thats what i’ve seen. **Guin** seems to think I’m obsessed with clothes because she’s made note of how often I post about them and how often I post to clothing threads. What you see doesn’t necessarily represent the whole picture. I’ve been posting to threads on comics, movies, clothing, femine hygiene, flirting threads, and relationships. I make note of the nature of my relationship when posting to a relationship thread because it is relevant there. I make a lot of references to Mrs. Six, and I will continue to do so. People make casual references to their SO’s all the time in MPSIMS and IMHO. You should call me “she”. You’re obviously aware that that’s what I prefer, so to say otherwise is disingenuous. “ze” is not an English language pronoun that I’m aware of, and “whatever” is insulting. > [@](#): > > I agree that she’s been talking about it a lot lately. Her SRS was a major, major change in her life, probably not unlike being married. Point of information: I have not had SRS yet. It’s coming up in a few months. My legal status until I change it this summer remains male. Legal status is irrelevant to the issue of what it is polite to call me. **kaylasdad** : Thanks for the clarification. That would indeed be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/79 "2005-02-23T18:19:00Z")
Oh, **Kaitlyn** , please don’t think I’m saying all you talk about are clothes. I was just saying that I have a similiar interest-especially for vintage. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/80 "2005-02-23T18:35:37Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Oh, **Kaitlyn** , please don’t think I’m saying all you talk about are clothes. I was just saying that I have a similiar interest-especially for vintage. It’s ok. I was just trying to make the point that it’s easy to get a false impression if one isn’t seeing the whole picture. And I am obsessed with clothes. Mrs. Six calls me Kerri Bradshaw (whoever that is) with better taste in clothes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342.md?page=5)