# Get your fucking facts right (Kaitlyn/Priceguy)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 22, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342 "2005-02-22T15:17:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/81 "2005-02-23T18:37:15Z")

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Carrie. _Sex and the City_ characer played by Sarah Jessica Parker.

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/82 "2005-02-23T19:15:06Z")

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Thanks. Never seen it.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/83 "2005-02-23T21:00:35Z")

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> [@Kaitlyn](#):
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> Thanks. Never seen it.

And you call yourself a woman?!

I kid, I kid.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/84 "2005-02-23T21:03:17Z")

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> [@Kaitlyn](#):
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> Thanks. Never seen it.

Consider yourself lucky.

E.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/85 "2005-02-23T21:42:24Z")

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> [@Jennyrosity](#):
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> Without getting involved in the rights and wrongs of this, I just want to point out that I know **paulberserker** IRL, and he’s not homophobic _in the least_.

Then bully for it! I notice it didn’t make any petty cracks (at least in the OP) about **Kaitlyn’s** being a lesbian, so it’s not homophobic. I notice it didn’t make any comments about her being Korean, so it’s not racist, either (at least against Koreans).

The asinine part of this thread isn’t about homosexuality. It’s not even about being transgendered, really; it’s about a bare basic level of respect. I don’t know anything about SRS other than what I’ve seen on this board; I still don’t “get it,” either. But I do know how to show basic respect for other people, even when you’re getting on their case for something else. I don’t want to sound like I’m jumping all over your case, **Jennyrosity** , but whether **paulberserker** ’s a good person in real life doesn’t mean that it wasn’t being a total asshole in this thread.

It wants to complain about somebody making a “big deal” about herself, then it should complain about _that_, not make fucking cheap shots about her gender identity. People are so quick to jump in and defend it, but it still has to explain what it meant by making snide “her” comments all through its post, but only jumps up and down and whines and screams that now _it’s_ getting dogpiled. What about _its_ rights to be confused by the whole gender identity issue? Waaaaahh!

> [@Bricker](#):
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> It seems fair to point out that in this very thread, it’s been acknowledged that the laws of at least three states consider Kaitlyn male, which suggests that there is some objective support for the quotation marks.

And the part that you continue to fail to understand, **Bricker** is that it matters fuck all what “the laws of at least three states” consider **Kaitlyn** to be. All that matters is what _she_ considers herself to be. You either respect that, or you stay the fuck out of it. And when enough people understand that, then the laws of at least three states can be changed to get rid of this fucking intolerant nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/86 "2005-02-23T23:26:20Z")

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> [@Kaitlyn](#):
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> Thanks. Never seen it.

I’ve never seen it either, but from the photos I’ve seen in magazines it’s good that Mrs. Six specified “with better taste in clothes”!

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/87 "2005-02-23T23:56:43Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Carrie. _Sex and the City_ characer played by Sarah Jessica Parker.

Thank og for that. I thought she was comparing her to [Terry Bradshaw](http://www.smokemag.com/0398/celeb.jpg) which would be a terribly mean thing to do to a person.

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/88 "2005-02-24T05:34:37Z")

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> [@Ellis Dee](#):
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> And you call yourself a woman?!
> 
> I kid, I kid.

_Sex and the City_ is for straight girls.

We watch _The L Word_.

Kidding. Never seen that one either.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/89 "2005-02-24T05:40:21Z")

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I’m straight and I don’t watch _Sex and the City_, and from what I’ve seen from commercial spots, I’m not missing anything.

We straight gals watch _ER_ reruns: George Clooney, Noah Wyle and Goran Visnjic.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/90 "2005-02-24T05:45:43Z")

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> [@Kaitlyn](#):
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> _Sex and the City_ is for straight girls.

If by “straight girls” you mean “gay men,” then yes, you are correct.

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/91 "2005-02-24T06:27:00Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> If by “straight girls” you mean “gay men,” then yes, you are correct.

No, no , no. Your designated cable show is _Queer as Folk_. You may, as a substitute, watch _Six Feet Under_.

Straight guys are required to watch _The Sopranos_ or _Deadwood_.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/92 "2005-02-24T07:17:42Z")

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> [@Kaitlyn](#):
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> No, no , no. Your designated cable show is _Queer as Folk_. You may, as a substitute, watch _Six Feet Under_.

And people wonder why so many gay guys seem so pissed off. I’ve seen exactly one and a half episodes of _Queer as Folk_, and it made me want to either dive back into the closet, gouge my eyes out with the TV remote, or some combination of both.

> [@Kaitlyn](#):
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> Straight guys are required to watch _The Sopranos_ or _Deadwood_.

With as many times as _Deadwood_ uses the word “cocksucker,” I think that gay men should be entitled to watch it. And I’ve never seen _The Sopranos_, but I did see a clip that had some fat mob guy going down on another guy in a parking lot, which I think opens it up to the Other Side as well.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> We straight gals watch ER reruns: George Clooney, Noah Wyle and Goran Visnjic.

If by “straight gals” you mean “gay men,” then yes, you are correct.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/93 "2005-02-24T07:23:59Z")

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I don’t have a TV at all, for what it’s worth.

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/94 "2005-02-24T08:51:35Z")

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Oh, and for the record, the designated cable show for Korean lesbians is _Carnivale_. An informal poll of every person from that demographic group conducted last night revealed that 100% of respondants (both of them) listed this as their favorite tv show.

Disclaimer: I’ve never seen any of the shows listed other than half a season of the Sopranos.  
All of the preceeding nonsense was intended in jest.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/95 "2005-02-24T09:07:03Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I am so sick of the argument, “Well, I know Doper So and So in real life, and he’s really nice!!!”
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> I don’t give a shit what someone is like in real life-it’s how they act HERE that matters. And if someone acts like a complete prick, I’m gonna call them on that.

Ha! That’s brilliant! Real Life doesn’t matter, the Straight Dope does though.

Get a fucking life you sad bint.

And as for the ’ 's thing, so fucking what? I had a go at kaitlyn, big fucking wow. I seriously don’t give a fuck at you people now. WAAAAAA! i’m Gay! WAAAAA! i’m straight! WAAAAA! i’m Bi! WAAAAA! i’m confused!

Who gives a shit what you fucking are? Stop acting like its so important.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/96 "2005-02-24T09:09:25Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Ha! That’s brilliant! Real Life doesn’t matter, the Straight Dope does though.
> 
> Get a fucking life you sad bint.

Those of us who can read correctly interpreted her statement as meaning “people are judged **on the Straight Dope** for how they behave **on the Straight Dope** , not how [someone asserts] they behave in real life.”

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/97 "2005-02-24T09:26:24Z")

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Is there any real distinction between Guinastasias real life and on here?

I’m sorry, I can’t read.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/98 "2005-02-24T09:37:32Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> And as for the ’ 's thing, so fucking what? I had a go at kaitlyn, big fucking wow. I seriously don’t give a fuck at you people now. WAAAAAA! i’m Gay! WAAAAA! i’m straight! WAAAAA! i’m Bi! WAAAAA! i’m confused!
> 
> Who gives a shit what you fucking are? Stop acting like its so important.

Cheese and rice, that’s stupid. If you genuinely don’t care, then don’t make cheap shots about it. And stop starting threads about it! You sure are spending a lot of your time and energy letting people know that you don’t care about them.

“So fucking what?” You were being an ass, and you got called on it, and now you’re whining about being dogpiled. That’s what. When you can give somebody shit about their posting style without making cheap shots about their gender identity, _then_ you won’t get people making such a “big deal” about it.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/99 "2005-02-24T10:33:23Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> I’m sorry, I can’t read.

We know.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/100 "2005-02-24T17:40:51Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Is there any real distinction between Guinastasias real life and on here?

Well, one assumes that in real life, she does not encounter quite so many drunken pub rats acting like jackasses.

If I’m wrong about that, she has my deepest sympathies.

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