# Get your fucking facts right (Kaitlyn/Priceguy) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 22, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342 "2005-02-22T15:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/141 "2005-02-25T01:11:38Z")
> [@kung fu lola](#): > > **Kaitlyn** , I suspected it was something like that. IMHO, you’re being very classy about the whole thing. Agreed. Nothing says class like months and months of lying. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/142 "2005-02-25T01:13:08Z")
I’m flabbergasted. **Kaitlyn** , I’m not going to be able to trust you for some time. I find that sad - I’ve enjoyed your posts, and thought I was learning something from them. I hope it is true that you have been honest since December. That’s a good start. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/143 "2005-02-25T01:19:27Z")
I meant **now**. Besides, in our fucked-up society, trans people are forced to lie, just to have a normal, unharangued life, because we’re all too uptight to let go of our irrational attachment to gender prejudices. **Kaitlyn** could be playing the “pity me, I’m a victim” card, but she’s not. She is owning up to being dishonest. That shows class. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/144 "2005-02-25T01:20:33Z")
> [@smoke](#): > > So why exactly were the Pineapples banned? Sock. Sorry, **smoke** , this thread was moving so fast you asked before I got my post in. Veb ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/145 "2005-02-25T01:22:59Z")
> [@Kaitlyn](#): > > I had hoped to make a clean break from the lies and deceptions I had been spreading up to that point by starting fresh and being completely open and honest. Being completely open and honest would have meant admitting to the lies before being found out. A “Coming Clean” thread at that time, explaining about the lies and telling the truth, would have made it so much easier to believe you, and you would have been in no greater risk of banning than you are now. What’s with the pictures? I’m not ready to swear that Chingmy Yau is the person in the picture of Mrs Six, but if she isn’t, why is the picture called Chingmy? Why is yours called Gilda? If the pictures are in fact not of you and Mrs Six, why post them when you had already [said in another thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5705095&postcount=38) that you didn’t want to post pictures? Taking those kinds of risk and displaying that kind of behaviour bespeaks a serious disturbance. I’m not saying this as an insult, merely as a statement of fact. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/146 "2005-02-25T01:25:13Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Sock. So if one looks around, one will find another banned poster who didn’t want to post under their real name? ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/147 "2005-02-25T01:25:29Z")
Yeah but how do you know she’s telling the truth now? The brother ‘explanation’ doesn’t tell us why she lied about teaching for 10 or is it 18 years? What’s with the obviously borrowed photos? I don’t think transgender translates to compulsive liar. Do you? ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/148 "2005-02-25T01:28:26Z")
Crap, my response was to **kungfu lola**. ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/149 "2005-02-25T01:32:07Z")
So, **Kaitlyn** your brother is a geeky white guy and you are Korean. Is that correct? And just to be clear, if everything post December is true, Mrs. Six is actually a Hong Kong actress and doesn’t in fact work in a McDonalds? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/150 "2005-02-25T01:33:10Z")
> [@Primaflora](#): > > Crap, my response was to **kungfu lola**. That’s why I always laugh at the “Why do people always quote?” pit threads. Even in a slow thread, there can easily be posts that come in between. But I was pretty sure you weren’t talking to me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/151 "2005-02-25T01:33:26Z")
**Kaitlyn** , who cares about the whole thing. You seem like a cool person, and the actress who plays Sun on Lost is way hotter than Halle Berry and a better actress to boot. My views on you remain unchanged until you cancel the pillow fight. Then you are nothing to me. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/152 "2005-02-25T01:48:20Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > I hope it is true that you have been honest since December. That’s a good start. Since she’s been lying for the last 4 years, I don’t really see how allegedly being honest for two months is a “good start”, especially since she didn’t fess up until she was caught. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/153 "2005-02-25T01:51:46Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Sock. > Sorry, **smoke** , this thread was moving so fast you asked before I got my post in. > > Veb Can you tell us if it was an active member or someone banned previously? Or (it’s worth a shot) a name? > [@InvidiousCourgette](#): > > So, Kaitlyn your brother is a geeky white guy and you are Korean. Is that correct? She mentioned being adopted in the past week or two. > [@Harborwolf](#): > > **Kaitlyn** , who cares about the whole thing. You seem like a cool person, and the actress who plays Sun on Lost is way hotter than Halle Berry and a better actress to boot. While I wouldn’t go so far as to ask who cares as what you did was incredibly callow and will or has made you many enemies, I do agree with **Harborwolf** ’s general sentiment and don’t bear a grudge against you.have often enjoyed your contributions to threads. Assuming this doesn’t lead to a banning (would it? I honestly don’t know), I hope you’ve learned your lesson and will be as forthright in the future as you seem to be in your previous post to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/154 "2005-02-25T01:56:11Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > Since she’s been lying for the last 4 years, I don’t really see how allegedly being honest for two months is a “good start”, especially since she didn’t fess up until she was caught. :dubious: That’s true enough, but you have to start somewhere. If she has been telling the truth since the thread she referenced, I do consider that a good start. Long way to go, but still… I am curious about the picture thing though. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/155 "2005-02-25T01:59:23Z")
Yes, but she claimed to be white before…and Mrs. Six’s race changes magically from Fillipino to Korean? (And possibly now Chinese!) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/156 "2005-02-25T02:00:12Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > …and don’t bear a grudge against you.have often enjoyed your contributions to threads… That should read “and don’t bear a grudge against you and have often”. Missed it the first go-round but really tripped me up when I read it a third. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/157 "2005-02-25T02:00:15Z")
If **Kaitlyn Number Six** hadn’t been a well-liked poster, she’d’ve been banned so fast it’d make our heads spin. Because people are unwilling to believe that they have been thoroughly played, they give the well-liked poster _praise_. The double-standard is mind-boggling. Fortunately for a few months now every time I have seen the phrase “class act” (or any permutations thereof) I have mentally substituted “pile of shit.” At least 4/5 of the time it ends up being far more accurate than the former. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/158 "2005-02-25T02:01:07Z")
> [@Primaflora](#): > > Yeah but how do you know she’s telling the truth now? The brother ‘explanation’ doesn’t tell us why she lied about teaching for 10 or is it 18 years? What’s with the obviously borrowed photos? Ok, I admit that is fishy. I haven’t perhaps been paying attention to detail as much as other people in this thread have. > [@](#): > > I don’t think transgender translates to compulsive liar. Do you? Nope, and I didn’t say that either. I think that if you’re either lying to yourself about who you _really_ are, or hiding who you are out of necessity, it’s easy to rationalize coming into a community of strangers and lying to them about your personal life. I was anticipating that people would imply that Kaitlyn’s lies were motivated by malice or you-know-what-ishness, and I was voicing my opinion that they may have been justifiable self-preservation. Maybe I’m taking this too personally. Before I found my place in the world (and graduated high school), I was a fibber who could have given Fflewddur Fflam a run for his harpstrings. It was because I was “different”, I didn’t fit in, I wasn’t socialized into conformity. I could have easily been an object of contempt, but what I really needed in order to be honest was understanding. I was lucky enough to find a place where I felt safe enough to be myself, and now I am so truthful that sometimes I sabotage myself. My only problem was being geeky and gay. Imagine how much harder it is for people who are generally seen as “freaks”. IMVHO, I think Kaitlyn lied to protect herself from a very real social threat, and protected herself until she felt safe enough around us to be “real”. I’ve seen what it can get like in here, and I’m unrolling the flame-retardant blanket. ---
**Author:** ![liirogue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@liirogue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liirogue)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/159 "2005-02-25T02:01:08Z")
Thinking back on it, I am a bit surprised there wasn’t media coverage over a transgendered teacher teaching an elementary school classroom. Especially in Texas. IMHO, I would have thought somebody would have run to the news with that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/160 "2005-02-25T02:04:00Z")
Problem is, **Lola** , there are STILL wholes in her story-and she was still lying after “coming clean”. The pictures, for example? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342.md?page=9)