# Get your fucking facts right (Kaitlyn/Priceguy) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 22, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342 "2005-02-22T15:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/161 "2005-02-25T02:09:53Z")
I addressed that in my first paragraph. The rest was just me explaining myself. I am already being smeared elsewhere (Starbucks, _puh-lease_), and I’m tired of people casting aspersions on me because I have a modicum of compassion. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/162 "2005-02-25T02:11:34Z")
> [@Hamadryad](#): > > If **Kaitlyn Number Six** hadn’t been a well-liked poster, she’d’ve been banned so fast it’d make our heads spin. Because people are unwilling to believe that they have been thoroughly played, they give the well-liked poster _praise_. > > The double-standard is mind-boggling. > > Fortunately for a few months now every time I have seen the phrase “class act” (or any permutations thereof) I have mentally substituted “pile of shit.” At least 4/5 of the time it ends up being far more accurate than the former. I’m not trying to give her praise. I just happen to not give a flying fuck. Kinda hard to feel betrayed on a message board. I suppose it would be different in the real world, but this isn’t the real world. I give this whole sordid affair two shrugs up. ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/163 "2005-02-25T02:15:39Z")
Many of you will be relieved to learn that the picture of Mrs Six posted by **Kaitlyn** is not of a Hong Kong actress. It is in fact of a [Japanese artiste called Kyoko Fukada](http://www.idolwonder.com/kyokofukada/021.html). Not convinced? Well, try [this one](http://movieshot.8m.com/). My theory about all this. As **Number Six** , the individual was a rather humdrum poster, who went under the radar of most people here. (If he wasn’t so humdrum, ask yourself if it would have taken so long to unmask him?) As **Kaitlyn** , he gained a cult following, safe in the knowledge that as a transsexual, “he” (allowed now?) could get away with virtually anything, including going on about lingerie the whole time. One up to **paul** , I say. He may be angry, he may be berserk, he may even have friends in real life, but he knew something was up. He has been in the van of the fight against ignorance. Well done, young man, or as \*\*pau \*\* himself might say, “fucking brilliant!” And one more confession, since it seems fitting. I am not Roger Thornhill. Neither did I really appear in a film with Eve Kendall. I never really fought on Mount Rushmore. Indeed, **Mount Rushmore** has asked me on his behalf to fess up and come clean that he wasn’t really Mount Rushmore either. Permission having been denied to shoot in South Dakota, he constructed a set to look like Mount Rushmore. He will never again post here. Further, I owe an apology to **C K Dexter Haven** for trying to make him age 18 years. It was sheer jealousy, nothing more. He had all the easy charm and sophistication that I had craved for myself. Sorry, **Dex**. I will never post here myself again. I appreciate and love all of you. Goodbye. ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/164 "2005-02-25T02:19:50Z")
> [@kung fu lola](#): > > I addressed that in my first paragraph. > > The rest was just me explaining myself. I am already being smeared elsewhere (Starbucks, _puh-lease_), and I’m tired of people casting aspersions on me because I have a modicum of compassion. OK :). It just doesn’t seem to me that the sheer scope and breadth of the lies can be explained away by the kinds of lies that people tell when their inner selves don’t fit their lives. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/165 "2005-02-25T02:23:30Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Problem is, **Lola** , there are STILL wholes in her story-and she was still lying after “coming clean”. I disagree. There’s clearly only one whole in her story. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/166 "2005-02-25T02:25:37Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > I disagree. There’s clearly only one whole in her story. D’oh! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/167 "2005-02-25T02:33:21Z")
> [@roger thornhill](#): > > Well, try [this one](http://movieshot.8m.com/). Well, that’s the nail in the coffin. But why was the picture named Chingmy…? ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/168 "2005-02-25T02:47:06Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > Well, that’s the nail in the coffin. But why was the picture named Chingmy…? I think that linked pic comes up Chingmy because someone has it mislabled on their website, possibly. I’ve seen that happen when I’ve done photo searches before. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/169 "2005-02-25T03:00:35Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > I’m not trying to give her praise. I just happen to not give a flying fuck. Kinda hard to feel betrayed on a message board. I suppose it would be different in the real world, but this isn’t the real world. Eh, it’s not betrayal as much as frustration. It just makes it easy for someone to come in and say that everything said in this thread was completely invalid. Ah well; I guess it’s not as if there were any brilliant insights on the State of Humanity being thrown around anyway. I haven’t learned much of anything except: making fun of transsexuals = bad, **paulberserker** = brilliant bloke once you get to know him, and **SolGrundy** = still very gay and too eager to get up on a soapbox. What a crock. Kind of makes me wish I were more apathetic. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/170 "2005-02-25T03:08:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to ride my supersized genetically-engineered rabbit off to my hoveryacht to join my good friend Andy Richter for a cruise to the frozen methane seas of Mercury! Inspired by Pineapples, I’m calling “bullshit” on this one. Kaitlyn: “Thy (screen) name is an ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee.” The Song of Solomon 1:3… (Yeah, I don’t get it either. But I couldn’t find the quote from my favorite play, “The Crucible” on the importance of a good name, so I thought, “What the hell?” It has virgins in it. ::snicker:🙂 ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/171 "2005-02-25T03:13:47Z")
> [@](#): > > **Kaitlyn** said: > Given the number of lies I was telling up to the posting of the “Number Six is a Girl” thread, there’s really no reason why anyone should believe me now, and I don’t expect that many will. The pale white geeky guy with the Asian fiancée is a lot easier to buy than the more recent story. It’s an Occam’s razor, seems more plausible kind of thing. > [@](#): > > I have no doubt few if any will believe this. Especially considering that you have removed the picture you said was you and question of the true identity of the person in the picture you say is of your wife. > [@](#): > > And why is Kaitlyn’s photo marked “gilda”? A photo that is now gone. > [@](#): > > **Zette** said: > Agreed. Nothing says class like months and months of lying. Or if everything prior to December was the lie, it’d be more like years of it. > [@](#): > > **kung fu lola** said: > She is owning up to being dishonest. But is still claiming that the photos were the truth, although that whole Chinese actress thing and the removal of the photo that’s supposed to be **Kaitlyn** don’t lend much support to that claim. > [@](#): > > **PrimaFlora** said: > I don’t think transgender translates to compulsive liar. Do you? I don’t. I just happen to think that the prior to December story is much more plausible than the one that begins in December. > [@](#): > > **roger thornhill** said: > Well, try this one. So she’s not a Chinese actress, she’s a Japanese singer. I guess that means the post in this thread where **Kaitlyn** claims that everything since December has been the truth is _also_ not the truth. ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/172 "2005-02-25T03:17:13Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > I haven’t learned much of anything except: making fun of transsexuals = bad, **paulberserker** = brilliant bloke once you get to know him, and **SolGrundy** = still very gay and too eager to get up on a soapbox. Life’s about discovering who the genuine people are and who the non-genuine people are. Sometimes we are surprised by who turns out to be genuine and who doesn’t. “I am the way, I am reality, I am life”. I’m not saying transsexuals may legitimately be the target of discrimination. I’m not saying **paulberserker** is a brilliant bloke. What I am saying is that **paul** sensed that something was amiss and went for the jugular. As for whether he really is someone who discriminates against transsexuals, or would do if he got the chance, I have no idea. Knowledge is not the only antidote to ignorance. Neither in my opinion is it the best. Insight, wisdom, understanding are also important. We are human beings, not computers, for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/173 "2005-02-25T03:32:03Z")
> [@roger thornhill](#): > > What I am saying is that **paul** sensed that something was amiss and went for the jugular. Oh bullshit. **paulberserker** had no clue that **Kaitlyn** was fake. He got annoyed, opened a Pit thread, and was a prick. That’s all. > [@](#): > > As Kaitlyn, he gained a cult following, safe in the knowledge that as a transsexual, “he” (allowed now?) could get away with virtually anything, including going on about lingerie the whole time. Bullshit too. Anyone could get away with going on about lingerie, it had nothing to do with their\* transgenderness. > [@](#): > > I will never post here myself again. Most of these kinds of promises are broken eventually since the promisers are prats, but this must be a record. [sub]\*Given that we know next to nothing about who **Kaitlyn** really is, I’m playing this one safe.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/174 "2005-02-25T03:34:15Z")
> [@roger thornhill](#): > > Knowledge is not the only antidote to ignorance. Neither in my opinion is it the best. Insight, wisdom, understanding are also important. We are human beings, not computers, for a reason. **Rogsy** , I am calling bullshit on this. You are a fraud. You have always been a UNIX bot. I have been following your posts closely. Every now and then you let slip an _ls_ command. You may honestly believe your story of having an incestuous relationship with your hermaphrodite Siamese twin, but it is not true. It was programmed into your reserve server host by a gang of crazed computer scientists. I love you all. I am leaving forever. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/175 "2005-02-25T03:41:19Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > \*Given that we know next to nothing about who **Kaitlyn** really is, I’m playing this one safe. I disagree. Some one admits to lying for months about specific details about their personna? We don’t know anything about anyone here except what they post. No one **has** to post specificcs about themselves (gender, race, age, details about their private lives) Some of us choose to not post much detail but when some one decides to post specific details, then admit to posting lies for months on end, we know that they are a liar. and that’s sufficient to me. What I do specifically wonder about, though is why in this case, there isn’t at least a temporary suspension of posting priveleges while stuff gets sorted out. but I’m not in charge here. and frankly, to the best of my recollection, I don’t recall having much (if any) interaction w/them at all. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/176 "2005-02-25T03:48:18Z")
> [@wring](#): > > I disagree. Some one admits to lying for months about specific details about their personna? We don’t know anything about anyone here except what they post. No one **has** to post specificcs about themselves (gender, race, age, details about their private lives) Some of us choose to not post much detail but when some one decides to post specific details, then admit to posting lies for months on end, we know that they are a liar. and that’s sufficient to me. What I do specifically wonder about, though is why in this case, there isn’t at least a temporary suspension of posting priveleges while stuff gets sorted out. > > but I’m not in charge here. and frankly, to the best of my recollection, I don’t recall having much (if any) interaction w/them at all. Not to mention that she (or possibly he, if what we suspect is true) is STILL not being totally honest. “Oh, trust me-I was only lying because I was afraid to face you guys, but now I’m telling the TRUTH! Oh, and here are pictures of me and my wife-[sub]only they’re really of some random model and a Japanese singer[/sub]!” “Bitch, please.” I don’t care how nice “ **Kaitlyn** ” appeared to be-she/he is obviously full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/177 "2005-02-25T03:49:14Z")
Two confessions: 1. I showed the photo of the so-called Hong Kong actress to girls in the office, and the said she was a Japanese singer. One of them came back to me with a slip of paper bearing the woman’s name. I did a search and came across the Mrs Six photo on about the fifth fan-thread I tried. 2. My own mental picture of **Kaitlyn** was always coloured by an interaction I had with her (now I’m switching to “him”) when he was Number Six. He responded rather [bizarrely](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5075103&postcount=61) when I made a joke based on his name (which he shared with the eponymous hero of the 1960s TV show _The Prisoner_). Yes, isn’t it delicious how he referred to the incredibly scrumptious looking gay married couple from _The Amazing Race_ (Reichen and Chip) as “sooo annoying. They seemed to feel the need to mention that they were gay in every segment they appeared in last season”? Now at the time, as the more astute of you will notice, I was called **bodswood**. I changed my name when I too underwent corrective surgery. No, only joking, there was a problem when I transitioned from Guest to Chartered Member, and I solved this by changing my name, after having informed the Admin of the problem. Did you know I said I was “bewitched” by Kaitlyn in one thread? Isn’t that embarrassing? Although kind of accurate when you think about it. On preview: Ah, the zucchini has rumbled me. I’m outta here. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/178 "2005-02-25T04:22:13Z")
I’m leaving this thread open because Dopers have a legitimate right to discuss the posting behavior in question. Posts don’t happen in a vacuum, just to use pixels. The point of writing posts in the first place is for other people to read them. As has been explained earlier and elsewhere, bannings and suspensions don’t happen without review by several people. We don’t even have enough staff on-line right now, much less with enough time to have waded through all this. Veb ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/179 "2005-02-25T04:28:16Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > As has been explained earlier and elsewhere, bannings and suspensions don’t happen without review by several people. We don’t even have enough staff on-line right now, much less with enough time to have waded through all this. > > Veb I like you. hope you know that. I generally support the staff here. the post that proved the lies occured some 8 hours ago, **and the poster who made that post has been banned**. So at least for that poster, there was sufficient staff to act on it. A temporary suspension while “Stuff was being sorted out” seems like it could have been done then, too. I generally have supported the staff here. But I think y’all dropped the ball here. MHO and all. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342/180 "2005-02-25T04:34:49Z")
This will be my last post here. The allegations directed at me are true. I deserve every negative thing said about me here. I have e-mailed an administrator and asked that my posting privileges be suspended. My behavior was inexcusable, and I deserve to be banned. I apologize to all of those people whom I’ve decieved. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-fucking-facts-right-kaitlyn-priceguy/291342.md?page=10)