# Get your milk and cookies ready. Iranian warships coming to US coast.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 9, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873 "2014-02-09T02:15:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/21 "2014-02-09T22:22:20Z")

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I, for one, bow down to our new Iranian overlords with their one destroyer and one supply ship.

BTW, does that even count as a flotilla?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/22 "2014-02-09T22:23:52Z")

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Scared? This is a lighthearted thread mocking them. Our Navy will quietly shadow these guys and make sure theres no incidents.

> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> Jesus **Ace** , isn’t it exhausting being this scared and outraged all the time?

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**Author:** ![slowlearner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@slowlearner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slowlearner)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/23 "2014-02-10T00:31:52Z")

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But look at our own incredible stupidity building a fleet of guided missile cruisers the express purpose of which is to cruise European waters defending our allies against an Iranian ballistic missile nuclear strike, 22 billion plus dollars to defend against a threat that does not exist! The 1st cruiser is sailing for Spain now! This is a level of stupidity hard to comprehend, this might be the stupidest stupid thing I ever thought or heard of. They don’t have a nuke, they don’t have the ability to make it small enough to fit on a missile, they don’t have a dependable missile, and they have no reason in all the whole damn world to nuke Europe! Come on! They have a destroyer and they can sell it across the ocean, geez.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/24 "2014-02-10T01:21:35Z")

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\<\<Being totally welcoming and cordial would probably cause their heads to explode.\>\>  
Now that’s what we need: exploding Iranian heads. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/25 "2014-02-10T03:47:11Z")

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> [@slowlearner](#):
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> But look at our own incredible stupidity building a fleet of guided missile cruisers the express purpose of which is to cruise European waters defending our allies against an Iranian ballistic missile nuclear strike, 22 billion plus dollars to defend against a threat that does not exist!

What are you talking about? The US hasn’t built a cruiser in 20 years, and there’s no plans for any new ones. The main missile defense system planned for Europe is to put anti-missile systems typically found on US ships onto land. The cost of that effort is probably closer to $2 billion, not $22.

And the reason the US is building it is because we were asked to. It’s not like we randomly undertake billion dollar construction projects against the will of the host nation. (Well, I guess there was Iraq…)

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/26 "2014-02-10T04:12:41Z")

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China is the country expanding their navy.

> **[China Doubling Its Aircraft Carrier Fleet | TIME.com](https://swampland.time.com/2014/01/20/china-doubling-its-aircraft-carrier-fleet/)**
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> Sure, it's only going from one to two, but the Chinese navy is on the march

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> The South China Morning Post reported Sunday that construction of the follow-on flattop has begun in the port city of Dalian, and estimated it would be finished by 2018. It would be Beijing’s first carrier built from the keel up in China. The People’s Liberation Army Navy wants a flotilla of four carriers by 2020. The English language paper, based in Hong Kong, cited Chinese online news reports for the news. Those reports were subsequently deleted, it added.
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> The push to build carriers—the bluest of ships in a so-called blue-water fleet, designed to operate in mid-ocean—comes as China is expanding its territorial reach off its coast and developing the weapons needed to make such claims stick.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/27 "2014-02-10T05:01:50Z")

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> [@Napier](#):
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> Look at the adowable Iranian Senior Navel Commander!

Lt. Uhura, broadcast the following on all hailing frequencies:

"Attention Iranian Warships: WE DO NOT HAVE THE GOLDEN FLEECE!

My compliments to Captain Sinbad…"

Now, if only we could make skeleton swordsmen pop up on their ship a-la Ray Harryhausen…

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/28 "2014-02-10T05:16:30Z")

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Mind your manners. They’re Persians, not Arabs.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/29 "2014-02-10T06:41:10Z")

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Meh. Even during the Cold War, US Coast Guard cutters did inspections on Soviet fishing trawlers in US waters. Hell, off duty crewmen would line the rails waving at the Ruskies and snapping photos.

They could never prove I was the one who told the crew “Yob t’voyu Maht!” was Russian for “Have a nice day!” Or maybe they didn’t want to try too hard.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/30 "2014-02-10T06:49:55Z")

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Then again, the crew might have said, _“K chortu, ya nie ponimayu!”_

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/31 "2014-02-10T07:03:49Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Scared? This is a lighthearted thread mocking them. Our Navy will quietly shadow these guys and make sure theres no incidents.

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> Ships make good missile platforms. There’s a lot of rich targets on our East coast.

Is this the lighthearted part?

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/32 "2014-02-10T09:38:41Z")

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Maybe the lighthearted part was pointing out that [the US shot down](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655) one of Iran’s civilian airliners in 1988, killing all 290 people aboard including 66 children; and further down in the thread somebody says “turn about is fair play.”

Though in fairness RickJay doesn’t appear to have been mocking when he wrote that.

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**Author:** ![kiwimac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e19adc/32.png) [@kiwimac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiwimac)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/33 "2014-02-10T11:30:52Z")

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The US insists on sending it’s vessels all over the world, I don’t see why the Iranians can’t return the visit.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/34 "2014-02-10T15:35:27Z")

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I was just acknowledging that in this modern day any country has access to short range conventional missiles. Would Iran use them in this situation? I’d say there’s no chance at all. We’re not at war with them and there’s no current crises that would trigger an attack. Secretary State Kerry is negotiating with them right now.

So, I lightheartedly suggested we wish them well and bring milk and cookies as a gesture of friendship.

> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> Is this the lighthearted part?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/35 "2014-02-10T16:10:07Z")

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My God! Does that mean that hostile nations will now be able to launch conventional missiles at your major population centers? How can a country live like that!?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/36 "2014-02-10T16:25:45Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> One of these things is not like the other.
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> Obviously, we’re not in any real danger; the Iranians are not _that_ stupid.  
> It would be best to just ignore them…or, better yet, give 'em some milk and cookies.\*\* )

yes, what could happen from a country that is run by crazy people that celebrate a [death to America day](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24808022) every year.

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**Author:** ![Virgil\_Tibbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Virgil\_Tibbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Virgil_Tibbs)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/37 "2014-02-10T17:17:28Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Back in the early 90’s, when the Phelps family and the Westboro Baptist Church were really getting into picketing, especially other churches, they picketed a church in Kansas City, Missouri. The folks in the targeted church came out to offer the WBC coffee and doughnuts. They were rudely rejected. One man asked “Are those the doughnuts with the AIDS virus?” to which the young girl replied doubtfully “I don’t think so.”
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> True story, I have the video of the incident on VHS tape.
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> Maybe the Iranians would be rude to any “friendly overtures” How else are they going to prove how tough and resolute they are?

No, reckless and needless aggression is more of an American characteristic. See your quote for more detail.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/38 "2014-02-10T17:38:08Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I was just acknowledging that in this modern day any country has access to short range conventional missiles. Would Iran use them in this situation? I’d say there’s no chance at all. We’re not at war with them and there’s no current crises that would trigger an attack. Secretary State Kerry is negotiating with them right now.
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> So, I lightheartedly suggested we wish them well and bring milk and cookies as a gesture of friendship.

We already gave them milk and cookies in the negotiations in the form of [money](http://www.australiannews.net/index.php/sid/219951596/scat/b8de8e630faf3631/ht/Sanction-money-released-to-Iran). Who would have thought they’d send a destroyer all the way over her to thank us. Darn right neighborly of them.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/39 "2014-02-10T19:30:33Z")

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I just hope nobody compliments the warships. Then they’ll insist that we take them, and it’ll turn into a whole big thing.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/get-your-milk-and-cookies-ready-iranian-warships-coming-to-us-coast/680873/40 "2014-02-10T20:25:46Z")

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This Iranian “Destroyer” runs 1,500 tons.

By comparison, a US Arleigh Burke class Destroyer runs 8,400 to 9,800 tons, depending on ‘flight’ (read: model). Most of our Coast Guard cutters are as large or larger than this Iranian ship.

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