# Getting Crap Past The Radar - in G Rated Movies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 11, 2014, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302 "2014-08-11T14:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/21 "2014-08-11T21:28:49Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > In that case, I have no idea what TruCelt was talking about in her post. I don’t see anything about that scene that would need to be snuck in. Can’t speak for him, but I thought his point was that it was an impressively dark little aside of a scene - blink and you miss it. Not that it was snuck in ‘under the radar’. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/22 "2014-08-11T21:30:04Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > “TV-PG”, not “G”, but I did a double-take last night while watching an episode of the animated _Young Justice_ series (which is quite good). Amongst the teenaged superheroes is an archer girl named Artemis. > > In one scene, Artemis apparently loses her quiver, and a bit later she reflexively reaches back for an arrow. Upon not finding an arrow there, she yells in frustration, “Oh! I feel naked! And not in the fun way!” And Artemis was drawn to make you want to see her naked. Notice the phallic arrowhead on the front of her costume. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/23 "2014-08-11T21:31:37Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Disney Bashing? Boy, that’s soooo new and cutting edge.:rolleyes: Like other films for kids don’t have similar stereotypes and messages.:dubious: Disney basher bashing? Wow, you’re like soooo meta. :rolleyes: That mouse in the OP is basically singing that she wants to screw the brains out of every other mouse in the bar. That was a perfect occasion to tech the child about the birds and the bees. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/24 "2014-08-11T21:33:33Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > And Artemis was drawn to make you want to see her naked. Notice the phallic arrowhead on the front of her costume. And it’s right on her boobies. It’s like they want you to look at her boobies. ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/25 "2014-08-11T21:41:04Z")
The movie The Andromeda Strain made me wonder how it could get a G rating, though I’m not sure they are really getting crap past the radar. No real innuendo but a lot of more mature content just laid bare. The movie has decaying dead bodies from the initial outbreak, a few mild profanities such as hell and damn, and the whole the-world-is-going-to-end drama in the lab. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/26 "2014-08-11T21:46:51Z")
I think it’s reasonable to separate sex/suggestive stuff from violence and death. Violence and scarey stuff has always been part of Disney animations. I recall way back, when I was a camp counsellor in the summer during college, we took the batch of 8-year-olds to see SNOW WHITE. This was WAY pre-VCR days, in a theatre. Two of them wanted to sit on my lap, they were so frightened. The scene with the huntsman is very scarey, the scenes with the witch are frightening indeed. But the violence and threat thereof is not explicit. There’s no gore. We don’t see the heart of a pig in the box given to the Queen, we don’t see the vultures eating the body of the witch. We don’t watch the prisoner dying of thirst, we just see the aftermath (and a rather clean skeleton at that.) So I don’t think the violence is really much of “getting past the radar.” Now, sexual implications, that’s different indeed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/27 "2014-08-11T21:47:49Z")
> [@Iggy](#): > > The movie The Andromeda Strain made me wonder how it could get a G rating, though I’m not sure they are really getting crap past the radar. No real innuendo but a lot of more mature content just laid bare. > > The movie has decaying dead bodies from the initial outbreak, a few mild profanities such as hell and damn, and the whole the-world-is-going-to-end drama in the lab. > **[When Ratings Didn't Matter, or How The Andromeda Strain Got A "G" Rating](http://cinematicattic.com/?p=2427)** > > I recently watched the adaptation of Michael Crichton's 70's bestseller, The Andromeda Strain directed by the great Robert Wise (The Haunting, The Day the Earth Stood Still). The movie was alright,... ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/28 "2014-08-11T22:17:04Z")
[Jessica Rabbit goes commando](http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/jess.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![cmosdes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cmosdes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmosdes)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/29 "2014-08-11T22:49:31Z")
Not sure if this is the type of thing you are looking for, but in Frozen there is one line where the girl is being asked about her fiance and how much she knows about him. She is asked his show size. Her answer: “Size doesn’t matter.” ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/30 "2014-08-11T22:53:15Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > I think it’s reasonable to separate sex/suggestive stuff from violence and death. Violence and scarey stuff has always been part of Disney animations. I recall way back, when I was a camp counsellor in the summer during college, we took the batch of 8-year-olds to see SNOW WHITE. This was WAY pre-VCR days, in a theatre. Two of them wanted to sit on my lap, they were so frightened. The scene with the huntsman is very scarey, the scenes with the witch are frightening indeed. > > But the violence and threat thereof is not explicit. There’s no gore. We don’t see the heart of a pig in the box given to the Queen, we don’t see the vultures eating the body of the witch. We don’t watch the prisoner dying of thirst, we just see the aftermath (and a rather clean skeleton at that.) So I don’t think the violence is really much of “getting past the radar.” > > Now, sexual implications, that’s different indeed. It’s a fair point: another is that, without the violence, there is essentially no story in many cases. While the sexual innuendo is usually an aside that is not integral to the plot and is really just added to give the parents a chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/31 "2014-08-11T22:54:17Z")
> [@cmosdes](#): > > Not sure if this is the type of thing you are looking for, but in Frozen there is one line where the girl is being asked about her fiance and how much she knows about him. She is asked his show size. Her answer: “Size doesn’t matter.” I missed that one when I was watching it with my kid. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/32 "2014-08-12T04:10:13Z")
> [@chacoguy](#): > > [Jessica Rabbit goes commando](http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/jess.jpg) How about limiting this to [things that can be proven to be deliberate](http://findingmickey.squarespace.com/disney-animated-features/the-rescuers/8840812)? ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/33 "2014-08-12T04:58:30Z")
_Someone_ drew that panel, right? ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/34 "2014-08-12T05:20:32Z")
Sex sells, even to 6-year-olds. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/35 "2014-08-12T08:15:27Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > How they got this past whoever hands out the ratings I have no idea … Of course the kid didn’t notice, but my wife and I were definitely chuckling about it. As was said, it’s just a mouse dancing. Kids pick up the theme that the guys are interested, but not the nature of what she’s really saying. And even though she flashes skin, it’s not like she’s shown naked. > [@Iggy](#): > > The movie The Andromeda Strain made me wonder how it could get a G rating, though I’m not sure they are really getting crap past the radar. No real innuendo but a lot of more mature content just laid bare. > [@DrDeth](#): > > [When Ratings Didn’t Matter, or How The Andromeda Strain Got A “G” Rating | Cinematic Attic](http://cinematicattic.com/?p=2427) From that website: > [@](#): > > I understand that the ratings system was still a fairly new thing (first going in effect in 1967) and there were only four ratings: G (general audiences), PG (parental guidance), R (restricted) and X (explicit), but the fact that these films were marketed toward children is simply insane. No, these movies were not marketed towards children. Just because they got a G rating doesn’t mean the creators intended them for children, or expected audiences to look at the rating and decide that meant it was suitable for 6 year olds. Times were different, there was far more reliance on looking at the movie description, plot summary, and theme to determine if it was suitable for children or not. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/36 "2014-08-12T10:40:50Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > It’s older than I am though. Check out this horrific little moment from Snow White: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohIr4wB56E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohIr4wB56E) I knew it had to be that scene. When I was kid they re-released Snow White in the theaters and we took my friend’s little sister to see it. She started screaming at that scene, and honestly, I was freaked out, too. ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/37 "2014-08-12T11:02:36Z")
I’m always stunned that this little exchange managed to make it into the film Splash [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zPf3kO-p7hc/hqdefault.jpg "John Candy speaks swedish") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPf3kO-p7hc) ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/38 "2014-08-12T11:26:40Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > “It’s that awkward moment when you are watching a Disney movie with your kid, and the mouse starts stripping …” > > How they got this past whoever hands out the ratings I have no idea … Of course the kid didn’t notice, but my wife and I were definitely chuckling about it. The IMDb trivia page claims: > [@IMDb](#): > > The “let me be good to you” segment was almost cut because though brief, the lyrics and some animation was considered “too risqué” for a Disney animated family film, the animators avoided a PG rating and got the scene kept in by appealing to the censors on the grounds that the segment was a Cabernet [sic] song and harmless in lyrics, and because the character animated singing it was a mouse, not a human and thus not questionable. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/39 "2014-08-12T13:18:35Z")
Lots of films from the 30s – now rated G – had some very subtle sexual innuendo that the Hayes Office never caught. In **42nd Street** , there’s this exchange: Male dancer: Sit on my lap. Female dancer: I’m no flagpole sitter. _The Maltese Falcon_ out and out says that Gutman and Wilmer were gay lovers. It got past the censors because they didn’t know what “gunsel” meant. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302/40 "2014-08-12T13:19:58Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > The IMDb trivia page claims: Heh, I love the second reason - I guess no-one at the time had heard of “furries”. 😃 As for the first reason … the lyrics, combined with the actions on stage, are most definitely “risqué” whether it was a “cabaret” song or not; of course, I would not say this is a bad thing - the kids generally won’t ‘get it’ anyway, as a lot of it is based on double-entendres they are unlikely to understand (for example, “I’m taking off all my blues” as the mouse pulls off her blue skirt to reveal - an all-blue burlesque outfit). It’s there for the parents, I think. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-crap-past-the-radar-in-g-rated-movies/695302.md?page=3)