# Getting IE to work again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 18, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603 "2010-08-18T05:06:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/1 "2010-08-18T05:06:47Z")

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yeah…yeah, just switch to firefox. I’ve been doing that, but Youtube streams are a bit glitchy.

Trying to download adobe flash player just gets me errors,

Is there a fix?

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/2 "2010-08-18T05:49:58Z")

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Yes, there is a fix.

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**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/3 "2010-08-18T05:55:25Z")

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Try the [Flash standalone installer](http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_ax.exe).

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/4 "2010-08-18T05:55:52Z")

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I think the point of **The Librarian** ’s comment is that you didn’t give us enough information to tell you how to fix the problem.

Also, for clarification’s sake–are you having problems with Flash in Firefox, or is that one of your problems with IE? If in IE, then **Reply** ’s advice is a good start.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/5 "2010-08-18T14:45:52Z")

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Sorry for the abbreviated OP…I wrote it last night before bed and my brain was in low gear.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/6 "2010-08-18T16:24:37Z")

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Youtube streams are always a bit glitchy no matter what aren’t they?

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/7 "2010-08-18T18:39:57Z")

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Youtube videos are only glitchy for me because my internet connection is just a little slower than most of the videos play. I pause them just as they start, then let the thing stream into my cache til it gets enough ahead that playback won’t catch up before the end. I have never had the slightest problem installing flash to firefox.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/8 "2010-08-19T20:23:45Z")

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YouTube videos never display without glitches for me or anybody else I’ve ever known. Even if you let the video load completely there will always be annoying little pauses when it plays. There may be a technology for playing videos correctly via the internet, but whatever YouTube uses ain’t it.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/9 "2010-08-20T01:15:33Z")

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A lot of time, YouTube videos don’t play or you receive the error message “temporarily unavailable,” because you have your browswer set to reject third party cookies.

The ads that YouTube runs often use 3rd party cookies. So when you reload it will insert a new ad that doesn’t use 3rd party cookies and you can play it. Or you can let your browser accept 3rd party cookies for a session.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/10 "2010-08-20T01:54:27Z")

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I use Firefox almost exclusively combined with a fast Verizon FIOS connection and I don’t have many Youtube problems. Letting it load by letting the download get way ahead is a good way to fix most of those that do happen. I don’t think the problem is with Firefox itself though unless you have an older version or a very slow computer. It will work with the right setup.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/11 "2010-08-21T03:55:54Z")

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Ok. I was running on low sleep, too, and didn’t understand.

We need to define what you mean by glitchy. If you mean the videos completely load, but then glitch up, that’s something with your computer. Assuming they did not before, it is likely software related.

If, however, the problem is that the videos won’t load enough for you watch all the way through, then the problem is the connection speed. But not necessarily the speed of your Internet connection. The recommended requirements are 512kbps, but I find you need at least 1Mbps (1000kbps) to do well. If you have that, you may want to try a bit of software called the [Speedbit Video Accelerator](http://www.videoaccelerator.com/). It uses various techniques to speed up your connection to certain video sites. Another Doper has told me it helped. Just be forewarned that it will use up all of your Internet bandwidth. It has no throttle.

And, no, YouTube is not inherently glitchy. Most of the time, videos should play giltch free. They do on my Sepron with only 512 MB of RAM, and that’s a pretty low end computer. Though I will admit that videos from other places mess up more since I upgraded to Flash 10.1.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/12 "2010-08-21T05:55:46Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> YouTube videos never display without glitches for me or anybody else I’ve ever known. Even if you let the video load completely there will always be annoying little pauses when it plays. There may be a technology for playing videos correctly via the internet, but whatever YouTube uses ain’t it.

Youtube works great for me, no glitches. I use comcast for isp.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/13 "2010-08-21T16:48:56Z")

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Do me a favor.

Look at any or all of these videos on YouTube:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4-94JhLEiN0/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGGUgXyg0MA8=&rs=AOn4CLBL1y6PJcG5PtO5uxdq8i9WzyxdQA "JK Wedding Entrance Dance") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0)

JK Wedding Entrance Dance (10 glitches)

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX7iwwB9zQ4)

Jim and Pam Wedding (Forever) (7 glitches)

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMOBMIGHC0)

Meryl Davis & Charlie White 2010 US Ice Dance Champions… (7 glitches)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yEl8293cIRI/hqdefault.jpg "Mama who bore me") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEl8293cIRI)

Mama who bore me (4 glitches)

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay9RuFRwH_o)

The View: Taylor Swift on the VMA’s and Kanye - The View (6 glitches)

I’m defining a “glitch” as a place where the video freezes for a second or so, but the sound continues normally. I am seeing these after allowing the video to completely load and viewed at the 360p setting.

Or, someone could post a link to a video that plays glitch-free on their system and I can check to see if it plays okay on mine.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/14 "2010-08-21T17:19:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0)  
> JK Wedding Entrance Dance (10 glitches)

Watched until 1:49, zero glitches. Buffering was always about 30 to 45 seconds ahead of actual playing (about an inch of screen real estate of the lighter red bar). When it starts, it quickly buffers to that far ahead (within 2 or 3 seconds) and then buffering slows down and remains that far ahead of actual playing for the rest of the video. All of them have this behavior.

> [@](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX7iwwB9zQ4&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX7iwwB9zQ4&feature=related)  
> Jim and Pam Wedding (Forever) (7 glitches)

Watched until 1:30, zero glitches.

> [@](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMOBMIGHC0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMOBMIGHC0)  
> Meryl Davis & Charlie White 2010 US Ice Dance Champions… (7 glitches)

Watched until 1:30, zero glitches.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/15 "2010-08-21T18:59:09Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> Do me a favor.
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> Look at any or all of these videos on YouTube:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0)  
> JK Wedding Entrance Dance (10 glitches)
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> …
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> I’m defining a “glitch” as a place where the video freezes for a second or so, but the sound continues normally. I am seeing these after allowing the video to completely load and viewed at the 360p setting.

I looked at the first, don’t have time for the rest. I actually didn’t let it load completely. It was loading so fast that I decided to just start it at 1/4 loaded and see what happens. I did view at 360p. The result was no issues of any kind until very near the end. That did what you mention, but it looked to me to be more likely an issue with the camera the person making the video was using, but I can’t be sure of that.

Cute video, BTW. Anyone you know?

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/16 "2010-08-21T20:00:08Z")

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All my interneting has been done with Firefox for years, but I fired up Internet Explorer to check the videos I linked to above and to my surprise, I don’t see the glitches with IE that I am seeing with Firefox. So apparently, Firefox and YouTube don’t work well together on my system.

Or maybe it’s a bad codec pack or the wrong add-ons or a bad Net framework or an incompatible Service Pack or the wrong security update or a out-of-date update pre-dater 5000.dll or a malfunctioning video-thingapicker or a corrupted Basic Gloppy Pround-Focker or the Global Connection System Proofer is banging into the MS Regional Prick Stomper Play Regulator or the Auto Update Fream Separator is no longer compatible with my Software Bristron Doppler Wrangler after the 6457LL.PT updates or my Chrome Java web shifter is never meant to be installed on a Compact-based Runtime Winform FXP navigator generator system.

Whatever it is, I’m sure it’s something simple like that.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/17 "2010-08-21T22:34:03Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> All my interneting has been done with Firefox for years, but I fired up Internet Explorer to check the videos I linked to above and to my surprise, I don’t see the glitches with IE that I am seeing with Firefox. So apparently, Firefox and YouTube don’t work well together on my system.
> 
> Or maybe it’s a bad codec pack or the wrong add-ons or a bad Net framework or an incompatible Service Pack or the wrong security update or a out-of-date update pre-dater 5000.dll or a malfunctioning video-thingapicker or a corrupted Basic Gloppy Pround-Focker or the Global Connection System Proofer is banging into the MS Regional Prick Stomper Play Regulator or the Auto Update Fream Separator is no longer compatible with my Software Bristron Doppler Wrangler after the 6457LL.PT updates or my Chrome Java web shifter is never meant to be installed on a Compact-based Runtime Winform FXP navigator generator system.
> 
> Whatever it is, I’m sure it’s something simple like that.

I think you are zeroing in on the cause of the problem, I often have problems with 6457LL.PT updates. Typically I de-fram the whole system and then perform a bit-sequence hierarchy back-fill. That usually fixes it.

fyi: I use firefox.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/18 "2010-08-21T22:50:41Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> > [@randwill](#):
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> > All my interneting has been done with Firefox for years, but I fired up Internet Explorer to check the videos I linked to above and to my surprise, I don’t see the glitches with IE that I am seeing with Firefox. So apparently, Firefox and YouTube don’t work well together on my system.
> > 
> > Or maybe it’s a bad codec pack or the wrong add-ons or a bad Net framework or an incompatible Service Pack or the wrong security update or a out-of-date update pre-dater 5000.dll or a malfunctioning video-thingapicker or a corrupted Basic Gloppy Pround-Focker or the Global Connection System Proofer is banging into the MS Regional Prick Stomper Play Regulator or the Auto Update Fream Separator is no longer compatible with my Software Bristron Doppler Wrangler after the 6457LL.PT updates or my Chrome Java web shifter is never meant to be installed on a Compact-based Runtime Winform FXP navigator generator system.
> > 
> > Whatever it is, I’m sure it’s something simple like that.
> 
> I think you are zeroing in on the cause of the problem, I often have problems with 6457LL.PT updates. Typically I de-fram the whole system and then perform a bit-sequence hierarchy back-fill. That usually fixes it.

Oh, like I haven’t tried that a dozen times. I’m not stupid.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/19 "2010-08-22T01:09:07Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> > [@RaftPeople](#):
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> > I think you are zeroing in on the cause of the problem, I often have problems with 6457LL.PT updates. Typically I de-fram the whole system and then perform a bit-sequence hierarchy back-fill. That usually fixes it.
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> Oh, like I haven’t tried that a dozen times. I’m not stupid.

Did you try a bit-sequence hierarchy _ **forward** _-fill? Sometimes that works better.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-ie-to-work-again/550603/20 "2010-08-22T03:06:43Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> > [@randwill](#):
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> > Oh, like I haven’t tried that a dozen times. I’m not stupid.
> 
> Did you try a bit-sequence hierarchy _ **forward** _-fill? Sometimes that works better.

You make it sound so simple. But the only instructions I can find to do it THAT way are in freakin’ Latin!

Typical.

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