# Getting it on with Progressive Rock

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 9, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025 "2015-06-09T00:53:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arrogant\_B\_st\_rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@Arrogant\_B\_st\_rd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogant_B_st_rd)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/21 "2015-06-09T17:59:49Z")

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> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> Wot with my being a bona-fide Prog Masterman I am obliged and it behooves me to point out fora offences where prog is ignored.
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> It is ungentlemanly that youse do not discuss prog here much.
> 
> Do youse all not aspire to progmanship?
> 
> A fine mess, I must say!

I have no idea what you are saying here. I do not speak or understand smug hipster. 😉

Your thread title, however, makes sense. Ok, how about Protomartyr? People might disagree, but I like them.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/22 "2015-06-09T18:35:49Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Ah, okay, new to message boards, then.

Definitely not. Nor to making himself unwelcome on them.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/23 "2015-06-09T19:46:37Z")

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**Wallace The Lad** Wile I’m going to assume that you are not directing the phrase “contentious prick” to **Qadgop The Mercotan** , many of your posts are running right up to the line of being rude and insulting posters. Dial it back or will start to rack up warnings.

> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> Court of Crimson King is (to most) unarguably the first clearly prog lp.
> 
> But, if you want to be a contentious prick, you could argue that Steve Miller Band was doing prog before ITCOTCK.

> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> rsa-wotsit:  
> the gentlemanly thing is for you to never again post in any of my threads.

> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> Oh no, no!  
> I am not here to spoonfeed noobs precious information - and I’m not a blogfool either.
> 
> I will give you a band or two to chew on - my fav vintage italian, for instance, is Il Roveschio Della Medalia “Contaminated” lp - but I’m here to generate talk FROM OTHERS.
> 
> I’m here also in the hope that someone may actually recommend ME something.
> 
> In short, Wallace is a regulator and TAKER - not giver.  
> Its not that easy, son.

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**Author:** ![Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/43a26b/32.png) [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallace_The_Lad)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/24 "2015-06-09T19:54:56Z")

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Wallace’s real lurv is PROTO PROG

Anyone here for the proto?

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/25 "2015-06-09T21:08:34Z")

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> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> Wallace’s real lurv is PROTO PROG
> 
> Anyone here for the proto?

I love this chap called Johann Sebastian Bach. Wicked complex keyboard stuff, from before some of the more famous proggers were even born. I can only find cover versions of his stuff though.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/26 "2015-06-09T21:17:32Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> I love this chap called Johann Sebastian Bach. Wicked complex keyboard stuff, from before some of the more famous proggers were even born. I can only find cover versions of his stuff though.

Couldn’t agree more, but I think he hit his best years with Skid Row.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/27 "2015-06-09T21:21:54Z")

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> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> I just noticed that this place is called Straight Dope Message.
> 
> That supposed to mean that the average poster is to give it straight. Spill the beans, like?

I think you misread the tag line: it says “Fighting ignorance _since_ 1973”, not _in_ 1973.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/28 "2015-06-09T21:28:58Z")

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I dunno, throwing a disk at a stack of disks has a charm I think would rapidly wear thin, no?

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**Author:** ![Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/43a26b/32.png) [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallace_The_Lad)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/29 "2015-06-09T21:31:27Z")

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1. 

Excellent year for the prog.

Yessir!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/30 "2015-06-10T00:02:57Z")

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True, 1973 was probably among the best years for Prog Rock.

That year saw _The Six Wives of Henry VIII_ by Wakeman. Dark Side of the Moon by Floyd of course, Tales from the Topographic Ocean & better yet Yessongs was released by Yes . Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield, Genesis release Genesis live, ELP had Brain Salad Surgery.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/31 "2015-06-10T01:25:46Z")

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Renaissance had _Ashes Are Burning._

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/32 "2015-06-10T01:50:39Z")

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I’d post in this thread, but I’m stuck in a [Floyd Hole](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyY2zq6L2ew).

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**Author:** ![Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/43a26b/32.png) [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallace_The_Lad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/33 "2015-06-10T01:53:23Z")

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Renaissance keysman recently passed away.  
…

I just noticed: someone on this forum has the name of a German prog band.  
I doubt he even realizes it.

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**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/34 "2015-06-10T04:49:32Z")

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Or maybe he/she does. This may come as a shock to you, but there are other people out there who are knowledgeable about prog.

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/35 "2015-06-10T05:17:42Z")

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> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> Wot with my being a bona-fide Prog Masterman I am obliged and it behooves me to point out fora offences where prog is ignored.
> 
> It is ungentlemanly that youse do not discuss prog here much.
> 
> Do youse all not aspire to progmanship?
> 
> A fine mess, I must say!

I’d rather eat glass.

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**Author:** ![Meurglys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Meurglys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meurglys)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/36 "2015-06-10T11:53:14Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> True, 1973 was probably among the best years for Prog Rock.
> 
> That year saw _The Six Wives of Henry VIII_ by Wakeman. Dark Side of the Moon by Floyd of course, Tales from the Topographic Ocean & better yet Yessongs was released by Yes . Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield, Genesis release Genesis live, ELP had Brain Salad Surgery.

Curiously, 1973 was also the only year in his first 18 years (starting 1969) of recording that Peter Hammill _didn’t_ release an album of some sort!  
(And he’s only missed 4 other years since!)

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**Author:** ![Feint\_of\_Spades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Feint\_of\_Spades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feint_of_Spades)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/37 "2015-06-10T12:24:39Z")

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The closest to prog for me generally are Rush, Dream Theater, Coheed and Cambria, Porcupine Tree, Mars Volta and Steve Miller. The problem is that the term “progressive rock” is very vague and includes different bands for different people. In general, I think complex timing and having keys tends to put you close.

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**Author:** ![Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/43a26b/32.png) [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallace_The_Lad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/38 "2015-06-10T12:41:25Z")

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> [@GESancMan](#):
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> there are other people out there who are knowledgeable about prog.

Wow GE Man! So heavy! (sarcasm)

That is like observing the sky has elements of blue.  
Prog band cds are being put out now at rate equivalent or surpassing that of the (lp) heydays.  
…  
It is healthy and correct to brag to strangers about your prog interest/hobby/and especially ,the size of your collection.

When a stranger asks you casually: “Oh yes, but what is your occupation?”  
You can say “Assistant at the main Public Toilet”.  
Said person may step back a pace or two on hearing this. He might even flash a smug / condescending look.  
Now is the time to hit him with the line.  
“Oh yeah, I have a formidable progressive rock record collection. What do YOU do?”

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/39 "2015-06-10T12:49:26Z")

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Cool story, bro.

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**Author:** ![Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/43a26b/32.png) [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallace_The_Lad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-it-on-with-progressive-rock/722025/40 "2015-06-10T13:07:30Z")

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Its no story.  
If Wallace decides to post a story here, you will know it.

…

Bilbo Baggins and Doctor Watson both share something. Anyone?  
Do they collect prog? Well, I cannot say for sure but, wot the 'eck, maybe they do!

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