# Getting used to racial vilification **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 12, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977 "2016-04-12T04:44:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/21 "2016-04-12T16:50:17Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Matthew 5:21-22: > > It’s quite clear that Christian doctrine lumps together both angry actions and angry words/thoughts under the sin of wrath. So I presume that “mental violence” would be wishing to hurt somebody and/or expressing that wish without physically hurting them. Or instilling fear or anguish in them. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/22 "2016-04-12T16:53:23Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I think the OP is basically just complaining that he still gets chided for using the N-word even though it’s no longer taboo to show penises or same-sex relationships on the TV. And he’s realized that complaining about Political Correctness is just too obvious. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/23 "2016-04-12T16:58:22Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Or instilling fear or anguish in them. Like through terrorism / cross burning? Or does something like chalking “Trump 2016” around campus qualify too? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/24 "2016-04-12T18:05:54Z")
The OP is correct. Box office take for [_Se7en_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_%281995_film%29): $330 million. Total box office for _[American History X](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_History_X)_: $24 million. QED. I may have misunderstood the question. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/25 "2016-04-12T18:32:08Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Mmmmm, apples and oranges!! > > _This_ glutton asks that you spoiler such triggers. I’m an orange and you’re making me feel unsafe. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/26 "2016-04-12T18:40:24Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > I’m an orange and you’re making me feel unsafe. {{{squeeze}}} ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/27 "2016-04-12T19:36:58Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Like through terrorism / cross burning? Or does something like chalking “Trump 2016” around campus qualify too? :rolleyes: Come the heck on, up there’s the Bible quote plainly saying that harboring anger against others and expressing yourself insultingly at them is sinful and \*\*it makes no provision that it has to involve an imminent physical harm. \*\* See also “mental cruelty” in divorce law. Now, if someone feels insulted and threatened over chalk, or by how society reviles racism but can live with other forms of the Seven Deadlies, well they may be suffering from a minor form of sloth and pride that makes them wish the rest of the world did the work of making them comfortable at all times in all places. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/28 "2016-04-12T19:54:39Z")
> [@Medici](#): > > … but at the merest hint of racial vilification we teter on the brink of nervous breakdown. … Do we maybe exaggerate a bit, as well? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/29 "2016-04-13T02:57:36Z")
(And one would think someone using the name **Medici** would be more tolerant of letting some Sin flourish for the sake of stimulating contemplation… ) ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/30 "2016-04-13T03:48:52Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Huh? There are lots of things that are taboo that I think / hope / believe most members of our society have no desire to do: cannibalism, pedophilia, bestiality, murder, slavery, etc. Most, but not all. Also, there may be vestiges of unconscious desire in many more. For instance, full pedolphilia is rare, but limited forms of pedophilic desire are more widespread, and suppressed or unconscious desires more widespread yet. If there wasn’t some desire, even at an unconscious level, there would be no point to a conscious formulation of a taboo. And as for murder, c’mon! If you’ve ever driven on the freeway, you have had a desire to commit murder! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/31 "2016-04-13T09:13:10Z")
Oh what a web they weave and they are usually middle class white liberals. My Afro Caribbean friends tell me they are black, when I call them black the middle class white liberal brigade call me a racist because I should call them coloured. My Pakistani friends tell me that the correct abbreviation for Pakistan is Pak. and is the equivalent of Jock for Scot, Taff for Welsh, Paddy for Irish and Brit for English and you have guessed the MCWL brigade tell me I am s racist The middle class white liberal brigade ever mindful of their duty to be offended on behalf of everyone decided that Christmas was offensive to Muslims and we should call it a winter festival, the Christians rolled over and said nothing, thankfully the Muslims protested stating that Christmas celebrated the birth of Jesus one of Islam’s prophets. Beware of the Middle Class White Liberal Brigade the cause more misunderstanding among different groups than they solve ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/32 "2016-04-13T09:24:32Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Most, but not all. > > Also, there may be vestiges of unconscious desire in many more. For instance, full pedolphilia is rare, but limited forms of pedophilic desire are more widespread, and suppressed or unconscious desires more widespread yet. > > If there wasn’t some desire, even at an unconscious level, there would be no point to a conscious formulation of a taboo. > > And as for murder, c’mon! If you’ve ever driven on the freeway, you have had a desire to commit murder! 😉 The problem with taboo’s is that they create a mysticism that will suck some people in as with drugs and alcohol, people say that it is bad so I must try it. there is also the problem of not talking about taboo’s, paedophilia and incest exist because the victims feel guilty and that they are to blame. It is only by talking openly about taboo subjects that we can get the victims to come forward. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/33 "2016-04-13T09:29:16Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > Oh what a web they weave and they are usually middle class white liberals. My Afro Caribbean friends tell me they are black, when I call them black the middle class white liberal brigade call me a racist because I should call them coloured. My Pakistani friends tell me that the correct abbreviation for Pakistan is Pak. and is the equivalent of Jock for Scot, Taff for Welsh, Paddy for Irish and Brit for English and you have guessed the MCWL brigade tell me I am s racist The middle class white liberal brigade ever mindful of their duty to be offended on behalf of everyone decided that Christmas was offensive to Muslims and we should call it a winter festival, the Christians rolled over and said nothing, thankfully the Muslims protested stating that Christmas celebrated the birth of Jesus one of Islam’s prophets. > > Beware of the Middle Class White Liberal Brigade the cause more misunderstanding among different groups than they solve Ah, finally someone who appears to speak the OP’s language. Evidently you consider “merest hint of vilification” to include misinterpreting use/misuse of terms for racial/regional/cultural groups as racism, but do you agree with the OP that misguided application of the term “racist” to your vocabulary (as I’m sure it’s the only factor involved in making that judgement) equates to teetering on the brink of a nervous breakdown? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/34 "2016-04-13T09:31:16Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > paedophilia and incest exist because the victims feel guilty and that they are to blame. Say what? > [@](#): > > It is only by talking openly about taboo subjects that we can get the victims to come forward. This following sentence indicates you messed up your communication there somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/35 "2016-04-13T10:12:56Z")
I’m thinking IMHO. Off we go. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/36 "2016-04-13T13:55:14Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > My Pakistani friends tell me that the correct abbreviation for Pakistan is Pak. It is. So what? > [@](#): > > …and is the equivalent of Jock for Scot, Taff for Welsh, Paddy for Irish and Brit for English and you have guessed the MCWL brigade tell me I am s racist Yeah, no. ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/37 "2016-04-13T15:17:46Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Ah, finally someone who appears to speak the OP’s language. Evidently you consider “merest hint of vilification” to include misinterpreting use/misuse of terms for racial/regional/cultural groups as racism, but do you agree with the OP that misguided application of the term “racist” to your vocabulary (as I’m sure it’s the only factor involved in making that judgement) equates to teetering on the brink of a nervous breakdown? I believe that if the permanently offended shut up and gave their backsides a chance there would be a greater understanding between different groups ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/38 "2016-04-13T15:22:11Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It is. So what? > > Yeah, no. Yeah when relating to a person ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/39 "2016-04-13T15:29:24Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > I believe that if the permanently offended shut up and gave their backsides a chance there would be a greater understanding between different groups The way that you respond to Muslims and middle class white liberals? OK. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977/40 "2016-04-13T20:07:32Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > I believe that if the permanently offended shut up and gave their backsides a chance there would be a greater understanding between different groups I know, right? “Waah, waah, somebody called me a RACIST, boo hoo, poor me!” Them people need to give it a rest already. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/getting-used-to-racial-vilification/751977.md?page=3)